The Action Plan for Housing.

THis business of screaming for more house and then objecting using reasons such as....not in character with the area,
Developers will make too much money etc etc is galling, If it means developers making money by building on state owned land thus helping
to solve the crisis im ok with that,
Helping to restrict supply and perpetuate a housing "crisis" is a political act.
 
THis business of screaming for more house and then objecting using reasons such as....not in character with the area,
Developers will make too much money etc etc is galling, If it means developers making money by building on state owned land thus helping
to solve the crisis im ok with that,

Too right jimmy.

Some people would rather see people stuck in a never ending cycle of renting/homelessness than seeing a developer make a few euro.
 
Too right jimmy.

Some people would rather see people stuck in a never ending cycle of renting/homelessness than seeing a developer make a few euro.
They just want social housing on public land and all built by the Government which you will lease your house from.

Ballymun on steroids everywhere and everywhere and a permanent ghetto of deprived voters in your pocket for decades like in West Belfast.

If a developer wants to build 20 mansions at €2 million each in Douglas let him do so and if some people are willing and somehow able to afford those fine and it will free up 20 other houses for sale or to rent.
 

Roxetten

Full Member
Developers are driven by profit, that's fine in itself but it doesn't give them a free pass, as the neoliberals on here seem to think, that's why we need stringent planning laws with the right to object built in to them.

Developers don't care about building communities or whether or not their plans will enhance an area or lead to problems such as traffic congestion down the line.

We need to put people before profit.
 
Developers are driven by profit, that's fine in itself but it doesn't give them a free pass, as the neoliberals on here seem to think, that's why we need stringent planning laws with the right to object built in to them.

Developers don't care about building communities or whether or not their plans will enhance an area or lead to problems such as traffic congestion down the line.

We need to put people before profit.
But there is a massive contradiction between screaming about a housing crisis and saying how you would solve it, and then
objecting to developments, All these huge social housing projects promised by parties will create issues, lack of infrastructure etc
No party addresses that,
 

Hank Scorpio

Full Member
Developers are driven by profit, that's fine in itself but it doesn't give them a free pass, as the neoliberals on here seem to think, that's why we need stringent planning laws with the right to object built in to them.

Developers don't care about building communities or whether or not their plans will enhance an area or lead to problems such as traffic congestion down the line.

We need to put people before profit.

Yet we have the unfolding scandal at the planning board showing the process is rotten from the top down.

People with legitimate objections at the mercy of corrupt officials.
 
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Meridian

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Developers are driven by profit, that's fine in itself but it doesn't give them a free pass, as the neoliberals on here seem to think, that's why we need stringent planning laws with the right to object built in to them.

Developers don't care about building communities or whether or not their plans will enhance an area or lead to problems such as traffic congestion down the line.

We need to put people before profit.
Are you taking the Mickey?

People before profit are basically communists, are you one of them?

Developers are in the profession of buying land and investing in same for a return on that investment.
Is there something wrong with that?

Doctors are in a profession also and guess what, they make a profit too as does every profession, business and trade

Are you suggesting that Developers should also be providing social services and roads ?

It is up to local authorities and Government agencies to provide infrastructure and developers have to contribute to a fund for same for every development they complete.
 

MerchantOfEnnis

Full Member
There were a grand total of 754 new homes built in all of Cork City (including the boundary extension areas) last year. That is fuck all, and how many of them were socal housing, and how many were left for the private sales/family/first time buyer market?

Also there were just 98 apartments built, at a time when higher density housing is exactly what we need. We'd all love to see thousands of semi detached houses streaming into the market but the reality is the problem is so bad we need apartments, and fast.

But if just 13% of New supply is apartments, that's not fast enough.
 
There were a grand total of 754 new homes built in all of Cork City (including the boundary extension areas) last year. That is fuck all, and how many of them were socal housing, and how many were left for the private sales/family/first time buyer market?

Also there were just 98 apartments built, at a time when higher density housing is exactly what we need. We'd all love to see thousands of semi detached houses streaming into the market but the reality is the problem is so bad we need apartments, and fast.

But if just 13% of New supply is apartments, that's not fast enough.
People in ballyphehane are objecting to a 3 storey development on the old manhattan site, the place is an eyesore but people say a 3 storey development
would be out of character with the area, idiots,
 
Developers are driven by profit, that's fine in itself but it doesn't give them a free pass, as the neoliberals on here seem to think, that's why we need stringent planning laws with the right to object built in to them.

Developers don't care about building communities or whether or not their plans will enhance an area or lead to problems such as traffic congestion down the line.

We need to put people before profit.
Where exactly do developers get a "free pass"?

They have to spend small fortunes on planning applications, engineering, environmental reports, traffic audits, planning appeals etc and it all has to tie in with the local area plan that the locals were consulted on and the politicians subsequently voted through and can all be viewed in the Councils development plans online.

The same politicians then object on behalf of locals (who have homes) for votes while complaining about a housing "crisis".


People who need somewhere to live simply do not stand a chance.

How many objectors are on the housing list or trying to buy a home?
 

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