Russia's unjustifiable war of aggression in Ukraine

[budwards dad]

Weakest ‘argument’ ever

 

[Dr. Aaoouh]

NATO is an anti Soviet alliance still around after the Cold War was over.

No, it’s not.

Try again.

(Hint: Soviet Union has been dead for about 35 years).

 

[catcha]

Baltic Sea: Russian ship fires signalling rounds at German helicopter

German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock announced increased surveillance in the Baltic Sea after a Russian ship fired at a Bundeswehr helicopter during a mission. #EuropeNews

www.euronews.com

 

[King Silkbeard]

No, it’s not.

Try again.

(Hint: Soviet Union has been dead for about 35 years).

You are wrong NATO was expressly set up to contain the expansion of the Soviet Union and that is well known.

 

[rebel without a caus]

You are wrong NATO was expressly set up to contain the expansion of the Soviet Union and that is well known.

Yes. You are right. Possibly the first accurate statement you have posted in this forum?
And that is due to the Soviet Unions long history of invading other nations and slaughtering their people. Which, they continue to do to this very day.

 

[Dr. Aaoouh]

You are wrong NATO was expressly set up to contain the expansion of the Soviet Union and that is well known.

That’s not all it did or is for. But you seem to think that the USSR still exists. And you seem to at least imply that NATO is some kind of plot against Russia. But to do what?

 

[King Silkbeard]

That’s not all it did or is for. But you seem to think that the USSR still exists. And you seem to at least imply that NATO is some kind of plot against Russia. But to do what?

Precisely because the USSR does not exist is why I say why should NATO still exist?

 

[Dr. Aaoouh]

Precisely because the USSR does not exist is why I say why should NATO still exist?

It should exist now because we now know that Russia is as imperialist as it’s always been.

But NATO is not just an alliance of self defense against Russia. In the 75 years up to 1945, France and Germany (for example) fought three major wars. During the same number of years since NATO was formed, they fought none. Nor has any Western European country invaded Russia. NATO has significantly supported peace in Europe.

 

[Barry K O Bama]

We are entering the end game in this war. Now it will boils down to brinkmanship.

Putin has bet that he could outlast the West. Trump will ultimately decide if he (Putin) was correct.

Ua will trade territory for a viable peace deal. Everyone knows that a treaty with Ru is worthless.

So what can be put in place to stop Ru from attacking Ua again ?

Putin can't accept Ua joining NATO in the short/medium term so it looks like the creation of a buffer zone policed by some nations plus a rebuild and rearm program for Ua.

Trump's envoy, Kellog knows his stuff and will present Trump with a workable solution - then it's 'The Art of the Deal' time.

The ace in the sleeve for Ua & Europe is that US knows it will need allies to counter China - so Trump, hopefully, will not throw his European Allies (including Ua) under the bus. But with Trump, we can't be sure

We should know if a few months

 

[Bennyton]

Agree. There are many signs that Russia is struggling at present but the Ukrainian people have more suffering to endure for a while yet.

As our own Terence Mc Swiney said:

"It is not those who can inflict the most, but those who can suffer the most who will prevail"

I went to the Ho Chi Minh mausoleum a few years ago, Terence was in five or six displays, Ho was a big fan.