Immigration Thread

So the 28% of those surveyed who viewed immigration control as an important electoral issue are far right abroad?

The Irish Times edited Ryan Caseys victim impact speech. They have zero credibility.
What percentage of immigrants to Ireland are unemployed compared to unemployed natives?
 
Labour will get in as the economic disaster of Brexit has unfolded.

My point is that immigration control was one of the factors in the Conservatives electoral success.
I agree it was a factor, a huge factor in fact, but as with Meloni going down this path will only take you so far. It's essentially giving people the red meat of being able to blame someone else for their own woes. At some point even they realise that their lives are still shit and it's the people who told you to blame the immigrant, who are the real issue
 

Most ‘Ireland is full’ and ‘Irish lives matter’ online posts originate abroad​

Anti-immigration phrases about Ireland feature more frequently in US and UK social media​



Conor Gallagher
Tue Dec 5 2023 - 06:00
The majority of online posts stoking up anti-immigrant and far-right sentiment in Ireland come from the US and UK rather than Irish users, according to analysis of social media traffic.
The research highlights the role of international figures on the international far right, including high-profile political commentators in the US, in amplifying Irish anti-immigration views, particularly since November 23rd, when rioting engulfed Dublin following a knife attack on children in the city centre.
Sam Doak, a researcher with the disinformation research organisation Logically Facts, examined the use of three phrases, or hashtags, in the last month that are closely associated with anti-immigration and far-right positions: “Ireland is full”, “Ireland belongs to the Irish”, and “Irish lives matter”.
All three phrases have been trending on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, in recent weeks.

[ ‘Seven o’clock, be in town. Everyone bally up, tool up’: How the far right lit the fuse of violence in Dublin ]
The analysis covered posts from most major social media platforms, including X, Facebook, Instagram and Reddit, which had geographical data attached. It did not analyse TikTok.
Regarding the three phrases, their combined use outside Ireland easily eclipsed their use among Irish social media users, according to Mr Doak’s analysis.

The research showed the use of the phrases increased dramatically, both in Ireland and abroad, once word started spreading that the suspect in the knife attack was born outside Ireland.
“Users in the UK and US were very, very highly represented. Which was strange because with hashtags that are very geographically specific, you wouldn’t expect to see that kind of spread,” said Mr Doak.
“These three hashtags have been heavily boosted by users in the US and UK. Taken together, UK and US users accounted for more use of the hashtags than Ireland.”
Other countries that saw use of the phrases on a much smaller scale include India, Nigeria and Spain.
The most popular phrase was “Ireland is full”, which was used 218,000 times by 60,000 accounts during the month. It was used by Irish users almost 32,000 times and about 33,000 times by US and UK accounts.

“Ireland belongs to the Irish” was used 105,000 times by 39,000 users. Just more than 10,500 of these came from Irish users compared with 20,000 from US and UK users.

“Irish lives matter” was used far more in the US than in Ireland and only became popular as a hashtag after the events of November 23rd. It was used in the US and UK about 7,000 times compared with just under 4,000 in Ireland.
In the case of all three hashtags, a large number of the posts could not be geographically located.
The popularity of the “Irish lives matter” hashtag in the US is likely mainly down to a post from an account on X called “Catturd” on November 29th which instructed its 2.1 million followers to make the phrase “trend”. The Catturd account, which is run by Phillip Buchanan, a right-wing online personality from Florida, has posts regularly amplified by X’s owner Elon Musk.
Irish far-right internet personality Keith O’Brien, who goes by the name Keith Woods and is another regular contact of Mr Musk, also played a major role in boosting the hashtag among his large US audience.
In Ireland, an investigation by the Garda National Bureau of Criminal Investigation is ongoing into a number of Irish far-right activists to determine if they played a role in inciting the violence on November 23rd.

Cant answer a simple question and repeats a copy and paste.

Its little wonder so many FG TDs are calling it a day instead of getting voted out.



I agree it was a factor, a huge factor in fact, but as with Meloni going down this path will only take you so far. It's essentially giving people the red meat of being able to blame someone else for their own woes. At some point even they realise that their lives are still shit and it's the people who told you to blame the immigrant, who are the real issue

If politicians dont address issues then they will be voted out in favour of someone who will.

Immigration is part and parcel of modern Ireland, no one has any issue with people coming here to work.

Its not othering or anti immigrant to question why those who are issued with deportation orders arent deported. Moreso when they go on to commit violent and sexual crime.
 
You cannot refute the fact that "Most ‘Ireland is full’ and ‘Irish lives matter’ online posts originate abroad" though.

Oh well.

And you ignore when its put to you that 28% of respondants in a recent Irish Independent poll considered immigration to be an important election issue.

Fine Gael are on 21% in the last poll.

Keep your head in the sand m8.
 
And you ignore when its put to you that 28% of respondants in a recent Irish Independent poll considered immigration to be an important election issue.

Fine Gael are on 21% in the last poll.

Keep your head in the sand m8.
All have no relation to the fact that the majority of online posts stoking up anti-immigrant and far-right sentiment in Ireland come from the US and UK rather than Irish users, according to analysis of social media traffic.

Online polls can be manipulated while the "Ireland is full" etc social media traffic can be quantified and geo located.

“Ireland belongs to the Irish” was used 105,000 times by 39,000 users. Just more than 10,500 of these came from Irish users compared with 20,000 from US and UK users
 
Went down Paul Street yesterday and it was brilliant to see it so multicultural.
Went down Opera Lane and a group of scobes were advising a lad to put a coat he had just robbed on under his old coat.
One of these was with his partner and they had a child in a buggy.
The country is full, but a lot of those who came in are a vast improvement on what we call our own.
 
the majority of online posts stoking up anti-immigrant and far-right sentiment in Ireland come from the US and UK rather than Irish users


So actual Irish respondants to a national dailies question on the importance of immigration as an election issue can simply be dismissed?

Classic Stacky. Pick some arbitrary article from the Times or the echo and repeat for 15 pages.

What do you make of the Irish Times editing Ryan Caseys victim impact statement to remove mention of Josef Puskas making no positive contribution to Irish society.

What do you think of Irish Times journalist Kitty Holland (of fake news fame) branding Caseys VIS as 'incitement to hatred'?


You are genuinely one of the most unfunny boring cunts on here.
Even worse then Soundy.


Couldn't agree more.

Just some tedious Fine Gael shill who hasnt had an original thought in his life, much less expressed one here
 
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