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Cork Hurlers - Part 2

@ HW... You hit the nail on the head. As far as the GAA is concerned, rightly or wrongly, the final is about entertainment so the rules are unofficially changed. Professional sports have fully gone this way. If the alternative is another 5 years of Kilkenny mauling/puke hurling, keep it the way it is please.
 
This is an excellent example of how media commentators influence the masses and refs. Jamsie's message is complete horseshit but it lands. Kerry in football are masters at this.

Jamsie's message "Clare won, they knew the ref was blowing very little and decided the pull, drag, hold jerseys and stop Corks flow. This was the spirit the game was played and reffed.

Cork, we have to learn from this. The normal cards and fees can not be called depending on the ref and occasion.
This is a shit-take.
Had Cork deployed same cyncical tactics as Claire, we would have seen black and red cards. No doubt about it.
We are simply not allowed play with the same physicality/aggression/cynicism that other teams are ALLOWED to play with against us.
This has been going on for years and years in both codes.
 
What do ya do with Mark Coleman? There has to be a place for him I think, he was excellent in the later stages and was one of the players to lead the comeback. But his defending for Rodger’s goal was as bad as you’ll ever see in an All Ireland Final. Also Fitzgerald could have ended up with 7/8 points only for bad wides.
What do ya do with Mark Coleman? There has to be a place for him I think, he was excellent in the later stages and was one of the players to lead the comeback. But his defending for Rodger’s goal was as bad as you’ll ever see in an All Ireland Final. Also Fitzgerald could have ended up with 7/8 points only for bad wides.
What you do is hope he stays injury free next season. Must be on the first fifteen, absolute dynamo when fully fit.
 
Shane
I watched first 75 minutes there again. I thought Brian Hayes had an excellent 40 minutes. He seemed to be starved of possession after that.
Twomey came in and Fitz went centre forward and Barrett to the wing.
Whatever happened after that he didn’t seem to be getting on the ball.

Duggan caused us alot of problems for the second half.
Brian Hayes was flying but Clare realised he was our only puckout option with 20 minutes to go and they just shut him down

The lack of ball winners in the half foward line once Seamie and Deccie went was fcuking alarming again. It has to be addressed for next year

The Clare goals are a sign we are not yet right at the back. Rob Downey was superb on Sunday especially on the wing but Kelly and O Donnell breezed past him too easy for the goals. Sean O Donoghue needs to move in with Wayne Sherlock for the winter and learn how to stand a man up when danger is in the air. Mark was cleaned in the air for the Kelly goal too

I wouldn’t be putting the blame on anyone though. There are a million incidents in any game and no one decision was to blame. Sunday was a superb performance in a character sense. Small improvements in everyone will see a huge improvements in the collective
 
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This is a shit-take.
Had Cork deployed same cyncical tactics as Claire, we would have seen black and red cards. No doubt about it.
We are simply not allowed play with the same physicality/aggression/cynicism that other teams are ALLOWED to play with against us.
This has been going on for years and years in both codes.
Are you saying the referees have a bias towards every team we play.
I've watched both Cork teams in many grades and codes over the years and can't agree with that.
 
This is a shit-take.
Had Cork deployed same cyncical tactics as Claire, we would have seen black and red cards. No doubt about it.
We are simply not allowed play with the same physicality/aggression/cynicism that other teams are ALLOWED to play with against us.
This has been going on for years and years in both codes.
Yep, said this before, we seem to be refereed differently by pretty much every ref. We are probably the cleanest team in hurling so hard to understand how we got most red and black cards in Munster. That pull across Barrett's head not even being a free is incomprehensible, and would undoubtedly be dealt with differently if it was the other way around. Also pretty much finished Shane for the rest of the game. This wasn't a subtle foul, it happened in broad daylight in front of 82k people 1 referee and a very close linesman. Probably Murphy's worst dereliction of duty on the day. Missed 65 probably umpires fault and he was probably blindsided for late jersey tug. Job done Conlon.
 
Really? Like Limerick did to Kingston far up the pitch?
Or Hayes in the SF?

Too easy to say that Rodgers or Kelly should have been flattened, by the time our defenders caught up with them they were too close to goal.
These Cork lads saw black cards for this early in the season, both for and against them.
Now it's maybe likely that Murphy would not have doled out a card if Rodgers or Kelly had been grounded but would you be sure enough of that to take the chance?
Being reduced to 13 and 14 early in season leaves it's mark.

Sidenote- did we get the most red cards of any team in Munster?
Good post and correct, i find comments like Limerick would have done this or it wouldn't have happened against Kilkenny shows a distinct lake of knowledge of how hurling was reffed this year.
The penalty black card has scared players and management alike.
 
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