These are/were all fantastic servants to Cork. Can be very proud of their contribution. As can Mark.Watched practically most of those games as I have been watching Cork football and hurling since the early 1970's and as a forward I would rate Colm O'Neill, Donnacha O'Connor, the Hurley's, Powter, Kerrigan and Deane all ahead of Mark Collins but then again none of those played wing-back for their club in championship which I credited Mark Collins for as well as the Castlehaven management for making the switch. You are welcome to put him on a pedestal over those Cork forwards in that select period if you wish but I disagree.
A lot of posters getting carried away with Castlehaven's win last Sunday from a Cork perspective and insinuating some players as technically great when what we saw was a team of very good resilience having a plan and good execution in a penalty shoot-out.
he was playing at 7 on Sat Cooldude and while he carried the ball well and broke tackles his football was rusty and he coughed up possession a few times with poor kicks. He is a fantastic player and he possibly falls between two stools as regards positioning but I think his best position could actually be at corner back and sweeping across the full back line or else perhaps at 6 but he may be a little small for 6 and I really liked Clancy there on Sat with his all round football ability. Powter's style of play is more head down and running with the ball but he does read the game very well and a lot will depend on what style Cleary decides to go with. If we had foot passing half back line then Powter could cause damage at 11 with his straight line running but the ball would need to be let into him quickly otherwise he wouldn't be effective as a forward.Great post RHB. I'd worry that we'd revert to handpassing and running when championship arrives. Hope I'm wrong of course.
I did read somewhere that Powter is taking time out for his studies. He might be sick of all his 'pillar to post' positioning by Cleary and Co. He's been 2, 5, 10, 12 and even 15 this past year. Can't be good for his confidence.
Michael Hurley was plaqued with injuries and was gone from inter-county before he was 25, he had more pace and scoring abilities but is an inside forward. It doesn't surprise me he is the only name of the 7 you mentioned. Collins certainly wasn't ahead of any of the other 6 in a selected poor period for Cork football.. You said he didn't come up to the mark as an inter Co. forward, absolute rubbish. You compound it then by suggesting that he wasn't a better forward than. Michael hurley. I know who most Cork people would opt for.
Well 3 of them were AI winners so it can hardly been that poor a period. Powter and B. Hurley I'll give you but ruari deane, although a great bit of stuff would never have been classed as a scoring forward, kicking the ball was by far the worst part of his game. So that's 2 ahead of him now in this poor period. ?Michael Hurley was plaqued with injuries and was gone from inter-county before he was 25, he had more pace and scoring abilities but is an inside forward. It doesn't surprise me he is the only name of the 7 you mentioned. Collins certainly wasn't ahead of any of the other 6 in a selected poor period for Cork football.
If Maguire was someone who should be guaranteed a red shirt in 24 then you’d have heard a lot more about him before last Sunday. Good player for sure. Physically all there and can play but he’s been inconsistent at club level. Has loads to prove and there’s a big jump from senior club to intercounty in every aspect.Mighty list of footballers there RHB. I hope your etc. etc. included Sunday's MOTM Cathal Maguire.
Based on last Sunday's showing I doubt if there's a better half forward in Cork or indeed a better No 13.
I know the one swallow story but his last two points kicked under the utmost pressure in horrific conditions should guarantee him a red shirt in 2024.
Corky we're not going to agree on this. I think Mark was well up to inter-county standard and would imo have won AI if he had been a few years older. C'est la vieBonbon12
The period doesn't include the AI win in 2010 as referred by at least one other poster and Mark Collins didn't play with Cork until afterwards. If we were including the AI win I would have included at least Paddy Kelly, Ciaran Sheehan and Daniel Goulding.
Ruairi Deane isn't a kicker but he has more pace & strength than Collins and far better at breaking through tackles to set up scores. Collins also never hit Deanes peak from 2016 to 2018.
