The Official Celtic Thread

[RebelBhoy]

That is not what happened to Rangers.

It's not a debate. The facts are inarguable.

Rangers entered administration and were subsequently liquidated, a process which remains ongoing.

The bundle of assets were sold to Sevco5088, an entirely new entity.

The hard of thinking transferred their allegiance to a new club and have spent the time since inventing fairytales to pretend it never happened.

That is what happened. Those are the facts.

 

[CaptainSensible]

That is not what happened to Rangers.

It's not a debate. The facts are unarguably.

Rangers entered administration and were subsequently liquidated, a process which remains ongoing.

The bundle of assets were sold to Sevco5088, an entirely new entity.

The hard of thinking transferred their allegiance to a new club and have spent the time since inventing fairytales to pretend it never happened.

That is what happened. Those are the facts.

In 1994 the Celtic football and athletic company sold its assets and became an entirely new entity namely Celtic Plc.

Are people who claim that this is the same club of the Lisbon lions hard of thinking and merely inventing fairytales to pretend it never happened?

I'm sure there are similarly idiotic Rangers fans as you and Soundy who live in some parallel world where neither Rangers or Celtic are the same clubs anymore, yet both still sets of supporters seem to hate the other based on the fact they are the same clubs.

You couldn't make it up.

 

[RebelBhoy]

Any fair minded observer looking at the SPL seeing the stonewall penalties not awarded to one team and given to another, and then the types of ones conceded will understand why there is such disquiet.

Ex-Rangers player Billy Dodds among those saying the one TRFC were awarded yesterday shouldn’t have been one. Even the Hib’s official Twitter account said “Right, who had 20 minutes in the Penalty-to-Rangers bingo?” and now the SFA will censure them as well

How Livi didn’t concede a penalty for that foul on Kyogo today is a mystery that’ll have to go down as just the latest in a list of “genuine mistakes”?

That ACSOM podcast on the previous page lays it out quite starkly really. The statistics don't tell the whole story but they do demonstrate a number of statistical outliers.

That one today can only be cheating. There's no way Muir could look at that and think a mistake wasn't made. Absolutely no way on earth.

 

[RebelBhoy]

In 1994 the Celtic football and athletic company sold its assets and became an entirely new entity namely Celtic Plc.

Are people who claim that this is the same club of the Lisbon lions hard of thinking and merely inventing fairytales to pretend it never happened?

I'm sure there are similarly idiotic Rangers fans as you and Soundy who live in some parallel world where neither Rangers or Celtic are the same clubs anymore, yet both still sets of supporters seem to hate the other based on the fact they are the same clubs.

You couldn't make it up.

Yeah, I've heard that nonsensical argument before. Never from someone using the moniker "sensible" though.

You say you couldn't make it up... and yet here you are, making it up.

Celtic supporters know very well what happened to the Club in 1994. The club was hours from closure... was saved and was restructured. Thankfully there was never a liquidation. The original company remains active on the Companies House register.

I've never encountered a single Hun that knows what happened to their club in 2012. Not one. Not ever.

There are facts which cannot be disputed and the fiction which some people like to indulge in.

The Huns can pretend whatever they like. Just don't expect me to indulge it.

 

[CaptainSensible]

Yeah, I've heard that nonsensical argument before. Never from someone using the moniker "sensible" though.

You say you couldn't make it up... and yet here you are, making it up.

Celtic supporters know very well what happened to the Club in 1994. The club was hours from closure... was saved and was restructured. Thankfully there was never a liquidation. The original company remains active on the Companies House register.

I've never encountered a single Hun that knows what happened to their club in 2012. Not one. Not ever.

There are facts which cannot be disputed and the fiction which some people like to indulge in.

The Huns can pretend whatever they like. Just don't expect me to indulge it.

What am I making up exactly?

Whether some idiotic Rangers fans will acknowledge whether the club was rescued and bought out, I couldn't give a toss if they are in denial about that.

You are fixated on the liquidation aspect, why?

If I buy your house tomorrow it is still the same house whether I buy it because you put it on the market or the banks repossessed it and put it on the market.

Celtic have new owners Rangers have new owners practically every club in the premiership have new owners the one constant being they are all the same clubs just with different ownership than in the past, why you find that so hard to grasp is beyond me.

 

[RebelBhoy]

Celtic were not liquidated
Rangers were liquidated.

Liquidation means the end. They didn't get new owners, they died. The end.

Famously all clubs with new owners start in the bottom tier don't they?

As I say, it's not a debate, it's just a fact. If you don't like facts, it's not my problem. I'm not under any obligation to indulge your delusion.

 

[Minstrel]

Celtic were not liquidated
Rangers were liquidated.

Liquidation means the end. They didn't get new owners, they died. The end.

Famously all clubs with new owners start in the bottom tier don't they?

As I say, it's not a debate, it's just a fact. If you don't like facts, it's not my problem. I'm not under any obligation to indulge your delusion.

You present the facts. He runs away.
Or has he been liquidated??

 

[RebelBhoy]

If people come to the table thinking they know what happened and get it wrong, that's fine.

However it's different if they keep pushing when they find out the narrative isn't accurate. Maybe that's what happened here?

 

[CaptainSensible]

Celtic were not liquidated
Rangers were liquidated.

Liquidation means the end. They didn't get new owners, they died. The end.

Famously all clubs with new owners start in the bottom tier don't they?

As I say, it's not a debate, it's just a fact. If you don't like facts, it's not my problem. I'm not under any obligation to indulge your delusion.

No one is arguing Rangers didn't go into liquidation.

However liquidation does not necessarily mean the end, there are a whole host of companies that went into administration and emerged after a restructuring of debts and new ownership and emerged out the other side, Hertz General motors etc.

And as you well know Rangers lost their license because of the above, and once they had a new one granted the Scottish teams voted against them rejoining the top flight.

My question to you is, if you truly believe they are a completely new entity and separate to the Rangers the rest of us view them as, than why when they were in the third division would you have been pattering on about the HUN and some such when they weren't even your rivals, surely only an idiot would have a rivalry with a team they had never played or competed against?

And the answer is hopefully because you don't believe the nonsense you are spouting, you may do it because you can get a rise out of Rangers fans but do you believe it, I would like to think you are not that much of a moron.

 

[RebelBhoy]

No one is arguing Rangers didn't go into liquidation.

If the post had ended here, we'd have an accord. However you go on to argue as though it never happened.

I'm gonna have to insist you drop the moniker "sensible"... the cap don't fit.

It's clear you don't understand what liquidation is. I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

Liquidation is not Administration. There's a world of difference between the two. There's plenty resources available if you cared to learn the difference. You might even find out your fantasy of liquidation as a means restructuring debt is a criminal offence. "Sensible" my hole.

You wanna talk about Rangers' licence? I'm happy to talk about that too.... we can get to that once you've brushed up on the UK's 2006 Companies Act. Spoiler alert.... what you think happened isn't what happened at all.

I don't know why you feel the need to double down on this. You are just ignorant on this topic. I'm sure there's things you actually know about. This ain't one of em. No harm done.

We can have a difference of opinion on things no bother. What I won't go along with is re-imagining matters of fact.