Sex Education for Primary school....

[dmc]

So of you were castrated you would cease to be a man? What would you be then?

Every cell in their body is male, they would of course remain male. Gender doesn't change in reality.

Can you really not see how your example is different form a lady with a fake penis surgically attached??

 

[Blue Jasmin]

A eunuch?
I’d say he is already there

Play the ball, not the eunuch.

 

[Matlock]

Every cell in their body is male, they would of course remain male. Gender doesn't change in reality.

You were claiming it was all about the penis earlier...

Can you really not see how your example is different form a lady with a fake penis surgically attached??

I don't spend a lot of time obsessing about other people's genitalia tbh. Why does it matter to you what someone else identifies as?

 

[El Guapo]

Every cell in their body is male, they would of course remain male. Gender doesn't change in reality.

You mean Sex.

Sex refers to the physiological characteristics of male and female, things like Chromosomes and reproductive organs.

Gender is the social constructs society has built up around these sexes. Things like how people present, the way they dress etc.

These terms are used interchangeably but should not be.

The Language we use to describe things is important and does change the meanings of arguments.

I would say Sex is incontrovertible, but Gender much less so.

Thinking about things in these terms really simplifies many of the arguments people have about language when it comes to this stuff.

When i say all females over age 25 should have a smear test for cancer screening and am refering to sex it includes ,Transmen also. so no need for neutral language like "people who menstruate"

None of this of couse has anything to do with Primary school sex ed.

Now I'm outta this thread pronto

 

[dmc]

You were claiming it was all about the penis earlier...

All about the penis, not at all, never said that.

I used it to see if you would be happy having some lad sharing changing room, showers (LGFA changing room) with your teenage daughter?

Big hairy fella with his lad hanging out in the communal showers but really and passionately feels his inner gender is female? Or at least says he does. I hope ya wouldn't treat him differently form other girls now would ya??

I might draw your attention to this again, no one seemed to be too keen to address the insanity they are trying to open the door to.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...referred-to-as-she-by-judge-sent-male-prison/

Gender is the social constructs society has built up around these sexes

My arse it is

 

[El Guapo]

My arse it is

Write a letter to the WHO and tell them your arse thinks they are wrong.

https://www.who.int/health-topics/gender#tab=tab_1

 

[TheOutdoorThreadmill]

Write a letter to the WHO and tell them your arse thinks they are wrong.

https://www.who.int/health-topics/gender#tab=tab_1

Guapo, it's best to ignore him, he's an alt and doesn't have the balls to post under his regular user name.

 

[Matlock]

All about the penis, not at all, never said that.

I used it to see if you would be happy having some lad sharing changing room, showers (LGFA changing room) with your teenage daughter?

Big hairy fella with his lad hanging out in the communal showers but really and passionately feels his inner gender is female? Or at least says he does. I hope ya wouldn't treat him differently form other girls now would ya??

You see, you talk about how people should support and encourage and question someone who thinks they're trans, and that affirming them is damaging, but your description here is completely mocking of a trans person.

You clearly think that a boy would be willing to pretend to be trans in order to get to shower with the girls and, frankly that says more about your mindset than anything else.

I might draw your attention to this again, no one seemed to be too keen to address the insanity they are trying to open the door to.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...referred-to-as-she-by-judge-sent-male-prison/


My arse it is

I didn't comment because the link wouldn't open.

Edit, it opened belatedly. I don't see the issue you are trying to raise? Like other issues such as trans people in sport we need to find a solution that is fair to everyone. It's a tiny percentage of trans people though, and trans people are a tiny percentage of the population so, other than somehow wanting to link tsans people to rape, i can't see what the point is?

 

[dahayeser]

How would it in any way be appropriate for me to ask such questions about a stranger? In this ( entirely made up) scenario, this person is a class mate of my child, yet you expect me to interrogate them about their entire life. Do you genuinely think that's a reasonable way for an adult stranger to interact with a young person?

You seem to have decided that being trans will definitely screw up a person's life. What your basis for that?

As an adult would you not want to think about this before reaffirming this in the head of an innocent child.

This notion has exploded of late, why?

How many people from your past and present have come out as trans? Few if any I'd imagine. Do your really believe there loads more still living a lie?

So what are the odds this child is just confused, maybe a outsider, maybe just figuring out that they are gay, maybe some mental health issues, possibly on the spectrum, a bit innocent, something making them a more likely victim of social contagion? I think you will find those odds of the child being confused are very short indeed.

In your miss guided efforts to be kind jump straight to compounding the notion they are trans. A very dangerous and troubling action from an adult. School books then double down in it further. A frightening situation for vulnerable kids.

If you genuinely care about the welfare of the child, speak to a parent and / or the school. Surely you agree that lots of things that should be done before jumping to socially transition a 13 year old?

 

[Matlock]

As an adult would you not want to think about this before reaffirming this in the head of an innocent child.

As an adult unrelated and unconnected to the young person I would think it was none of my business.

I think giving toddlers ipads is dangerous and irresponsible but I don't go around confiscating them. Cos that wouldn't be appropriate.

This notion has exploded of late, why?

There are more openly gay people now than there were in my childhood why?

(hint. It's the same answer...)

How many people from your past and present have come out as trans? Few if any I'd imagine. Do your really believe there loads more still living a lie?

Not loads, given that trans people make up less than 1%of the population, but some for sure.

So what are the odds this child is just confused, maybe a outsider, maybe just figuring out that they are gay, maybe some mental health issues, possibly on the spectrum, a bit innocent, something making them a more likely victim of social contagion? I think you will find those odds of the child being confused are very short indeed.

You seem to be going to great lengths to insist that thd answer is something other than that hhey are trans. In any event, thats something for them to work through, not you.

In your miss guided efforts to be kind jump straight to compounding the notion they are trans. A very dangerous and troubling action from an adult. School books then double down in it further. A frightening situation for vulnerable kids.

This is all just your opinion, presented as fact

If you genuinely care about the welfare of the child, speak to a parent and / or the school. Surely you agree that lots of things that should be done before jumping to socially transition a 13 year old?

You presented a trans child as a pervert who just wanted to be in the girls showers. If your immediate response to someone being trans is to mock and demonise them then you don't give a fuck about their welfare.