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Well no, defending anything does not make it right, who suggested otherwise? It is the content OF that defense that does that, or fails to. And so far you have not rebutted or negated that defense. You just throw out phrases like "linguistic gymnastics" without at any point ascertaining that any has actually occurred.

This is known as spaghetti at the wall tactics, and they are both poor and dishonest tactics to use.



The majority of abortions before 12 weeks are medical abortions. A patient can be denied prescription to ANY medicine by a doctor. That is why we even have a prescription process. So yes, a patient can be denied the abortion they seek by a doctor, just like they can be denied any other pill.

I am not saying anything special or new here. Pills can be denied, abortion pills are pills, therefore they can be denied. Where is the problem?

Would it not be the case that if a woman was denied abortion pills for whatever reason then she always has the option of a surgical abortion? The method is hardly an issue.
And if correct then we are back to unrestricted abortion and not abortion on request.
 
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She can apply for that too, and she may be denied it on other medical grounds.

Sure the probability that a woman will have conditions or issues that require a doctor to deny BOTH options are unlikely. But the fact it COULD happen is really all that is required to bolster my point that you do not DEMAND an abortion, you request one. And you may be denied.

https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/pregnancy_choices/2915483-Been-refused-a-termination-on-medical-grounds

It can be surprising the things that lead people to be denied one type or the other. Some people are shocked when they get denied on grounds they simply did not see coming.
 
The anti-choice and anti-democratic Save the 8th fake news and disinformation campaign is underway. This is a Catholic church glove puppet disinformation organisation funded by the Catholic church and various foreign-based religious groups.

They are attempting to spread fake news and disinformation with a big focus on Facebook ahead of the May referendum. You have been warned!

This article is a must read! https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/...fake-news-firestorm-heading-our-way-1.3440927

This recent article is also worth a read https://www.irishtimes.com/news/pol...-to-quiz-zuckerberg-on-abortion-ads-1.3456103

Definitely a grudge against the church here M8
 
If the ads are paid for by foreign right-wing, anti-democratic, anti-Irish women's rights organisations, then I'm all for censorship. Some anti-choice organisations have links to British and Eastern European Neo-Nazi groups. Channel 4 had a documentary on about this last week.
 
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