Robin Williams rip

[Afro_Samurai]

Riddle me this, D'orio:

Would you go into a pub in Ireland and sit on your own?

This is the fulcrum. This is the crux.

 

[Afro_Samurai]

In the other thread you call the men 'weaklings'.
What is wrong with you?

I am reflecting. I am channeling.

 

[D'oriel]

I have.

Given I don't live in Ireland, it is rare, but I have.


Given my work, I regularly spend weekends ago, eating alone, walking alone, taking weekend breaks alone. I have twice taken a 10 day holiday alone.

What's your point?

 

[Afro_Samurai]

I have.

Given I don't live in Ireland, it is rare, but I have.

Most women wouldn't. It's just 'not done'. Women are sturdy pillars in holding up the glass ceiling.

 

[D'oriel]

That's one perception, I suppose.
The other is that people assume there's something wrong, that you're lonely, or a visitor to the area.

You sit in a pub alone and you have no shortage of assholes thinking you have a sign up saying 'come over and annoy the shit out of me, will you?'.
If it's a evening, rather than afternoon, the likelihood increases 10 times over, with the added generous sprinkle of alcohol bravado.

Do you know the shit a women takes when she asks to be left alone, and some fella has had a load of beer?
How genuinely unnerving and disconcerting it can be? How sometimes, it gets to the point of insecurity and concern?
Ask those women, who don't like to be in a pub alone how many of them have been grabbed or groped. How many have had a drunken prick trying to corner her and kiss her. Ask them.

This is stuff that men in a pub alone have no experience of, I would imagine.
Women don't tend to sit alone in a bar, because they'd prefer not to put up with the shit.
Which is fair enough, I'd say.

 

[The Curious Lozenge]

That's one perception, I suppose.
The other is that people assume there's something wrong.

You sit in a pub alone and you have no shortage of assholes thinking you have a sign up saying 'come over and annoy the shit out of me, will you?'.
If it's a evening, rather than afternoon, the likelihood increases 10 times over, with the added generous sprinkle of alcohol bravado.

Do you know the shit a women takes when she asks to be left alone, and some fella has had a load of beer?

This is stuff that men in a pub alone have no experience of, I would imagine.
Women don't tend to sit alone in a bar, because they'd prefer not to put up with the shit.
Which is fair enough, I'd say.

very sexist attitude tbh. "stupid men, drunk all the time and hassling women"

 

[D'oriel]

very sexist attitude tbh. "stupid men, drunk all the time and hassling women"

You think this is assumption? Remember, the scenario was an Irish pub, not a day-time café or bar.

This is experience, Loz.
Sorry, but it is not just my experience either.

It is very, very rare that I or many women can go for a drink alone in a pub and not be annoyed to some degree. From mild, to harassment.

 

[mayday]

It's a mans world.

but it would not be nothing..............










NOTHING!!!!!!









without........










loads more blokes.

 

[Afro_Samurai]

Women don't tend to sit alone in a bar, because they'd prefer not to put up with the shit.
Which is fair enough, I'd say.

Putting up with and overcoming the shit is what women need to do, though.

Women need to be more like men.

 

[The Curious Lozenge]

You think this is assumption? Remember, the scenario was an Irish pub, not a day-time café or bar.

This is experience, Loz.
Sorry, but it is not just my experience either.

It is very, very rare that I or many women can go for a drink alone in a pub and not be annoyed to some degree. From mild, to harassment.

it's the equivalent of saying " stupid women, they can't handle their drink and end up dropping their knickers to whoever buys them a drink"

it's that level of sexism.