Interesting article about concussion in rugby

[nelly sham]

What's the point of Mitt Willims?
Virgin Media is the only place he gets work. Do they fly him up for this?

 

[jeepers]

Matt Williams is a disgrace

https://twitter.com/x/status/1594101289843130368

The guy is a fucking dinosaur.

 

[How bad boy]

What's the point of Mitt Willims?
Virgin Media is the only place he gets work. Do they fly him up for this?

Off the ball give him relatively regular work too

 

[Happyhonkaman]

The guy is a fucking dinosaur.

Incredible how unable he was to see the point being made. World Rugbys own guidelines say that if there Is a suspicion of concussion then the player is to be replaced, end of story. The examples they give in their guidance were clearly evident, stumbling and staring, either of which is enough

But Matts having none of it because science

 

[jeepers]

That was laughable. Did the guy wobble? Yes. Do the regulations say that that's an example of suspected concussion? Yes. What is the rule regarding suspected concussion? The player leaves the pitch and does not return. This is simple. But no, Matt is uncomfortable about answering these simple questions because he's not a doctor.

 

[TheEarlofPearl]

What ever about Williams archaic comments, what was the independent doctor thinking? The incident was on the screens several times.

 

[nelly sham]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...ysed-life-opponent-flattened-like-frog-court/ Bit of a change of direction for this thread but interesting to see the outcome and the precedent it would send Amateur women's player is suing an opponent left her paralysed from the waist down following a tackle, having previously claimed mid game she was "going to break her".

 

[How bad boy]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...ysed-life-opponent-flattened-like-frog-court/ Bit of a change of direction for this thread but interesting to see the outcome and the precedent it would send Amateur women's player is suing an opponent left her paralysed from the waist down following a tackle, having previously claimed mid game she was "going to break her".

Sad case, but from the description, it sounds like simply an unfortunate tackle injury. Clumsy and shit, with an enormous size difference but little more.

People say shit like "I'm going to destroy that fucker" all the time on the rugby pitch. Almost every single hooker I've ever played with has been a frothing psychopath on the pitch. Sometimes they're even decent human beings off the pitch. It doesn't mean they actually go out and actively try to paralyse/kill people.

Rugby is a violent game, this sort of thing will happen occasionally. It's sad and it needs to be prevented as much as possible but it will happen.

 

[Philby]

Interesting case. Hard to form a view without the footage.

In principle I'm not against the ability to take legal action if a tackle is excessively dangerous and has life-changing consequences, but there's a sliding scale. Other than cases at the extreme end it can become a minefield litigating highly aggressive tackles - especially at the amateur level (lower level of precision/technique and less likely to have good quality footage).


Feels like they're taking a leaf from Roy's book

 

[How bad boy]

Interesting case. Hard to form a view without the footage.

In principle I'm not against the ability to take legal action if a tackle is excessively dangerous and has life-changing consequences, but there's a sliding scale. Other than cases at the extreme end it can become a minefield litigating highly aggressive tackles - especially at the amateur level (lower level of precision/technique and less likely to have good quality footage).

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Feels like they're taking a leaf from Roy's book

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This to me is the critical section:

Mrs Czernuszka, who is 5ft 3, was in a “crouched position” waiting to receive the ball from her side when the other woman put in her tackle, he said.

Ms King took hold of her thigh and allegedly "exerted her full weight downwards on to the head and back of the claimant in the manner of a ‘belly flop’ such that her full weight pressed down heavily on the claimant’s spine”.

Basically, tackling a much smaller, much lighter player who was already crouched and bent over, prone.

It tallies up with the photos, which look weird when you look at them first. It looks to me like a really shit, clumsy tackle.

I've done damage to other players in the past through tackles, knocked out a few teeth, broken a couple of arms and probably other damage but not with malice, usually just with force and occasionally poor technique. Could definitely see myself having done this tackle by mistake.