Far-Right Protests in Fermoy

[CharlieManson]

Irish people are amongst the most positive in Europe about immigration.

Three-quarters of us believe that immigrants contribute a lot to our country.

Only Denmark, Luxembourg & Sweden are more positive.
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Thats the problem with randomly throwing up graphs without any kind of look with how the polls are framed

'people’s support for helping refugees appears conditional on the potential costs that providing support might bring. According to a survey experiment, while the majority of people (56 per cent) support helping refugees where no costs of providing support are mentioned, this drops to 38 per cent when supporting refugees could put pressure on services, and 27 per cent if it means raising taxes'.

That is a completely misleading graphic that lumps in legal immigration with illegal immigration/asylum seekers from safe countries. Its like saying if you like shopping then you also support shop lifting.


Brought to you from the same pollsters who thought the recent referendums were popular and would pass by a huge margin.


Lolapalooza.

 

[hurley68]

Thats the problem with randomly throwing up graphs without any kind of look with how the polls are framed
'people’s support for helping refugees appears conditional on the potential costs that providing support might bring. According to a survey experiment, while the majority of people (56 per cent) support helping refugees where no costs of providing support are mentioned, this drops to 38 per cent when supporting refugees could put pressure on services, and 27 per cent if it means raising taxes'.
That is a completely misleading graphic that lumps in legal immigration with illegal immigration/asylum seekers from safe countries. Its like saying if you like shopping then you also support shop lifting.
Brought to you from the same pollsters who thought the recent referendums were popular and would pass by a huge margin.
Lolapalooza.

Spot on

 

[CharlieManson]

Spot on

Its contemptible for people to be still posting that kind of rubbish when in fact the complete opposite is true, throughout the country.




76% of respondants in the most recent Sunday Independent poll said they thought we had taken in more people than we can cope with.

28% said they viewed immigration as the most important election issie, overtaking housing for the first time.


Trying to peddle nonsense about current policy having any kind of popular support is delusional.

 

[Meridian]

Thats behind a firewall.

Thats the 4th or 5th time youve name checked her and said shes 'only looking after the value of her house'.


Looked her up and her petition looks to have succeeded in getting it changed as a venue for 56 single male asylum seekers to families put in there.

Thats the power of protest m8. As a homeowner nearby shes damn right to make her voice heard.

Pay wall sorted :

Stephen Fernane
Kerryman
Today at 06:15

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A Kerry woman is a leading campaigner against plans to house 56 International Protection Applicants at historic Abbeyville House in Fermoy in County Cork.
Laura Boyle, who is originally from Tralee but moved to Fermoy in 1995, handed 2,059 signatures from Fermoy locals to TD Mattie McGrath in late December when residents were told the men were to be accommodated in the 19th century townhouse.
The protest is ongoing for over 50 days with a tent set up near Abbeyville House to enable protesters take turns in keeping a 24/7 presence at the site. A special ‘day of activities’ at the tent is being planned for St Patrick’s Day.

“We rallied to the call immediately on December 12 when we were told the men were arriving. The house is still empty but just today (Thursday) we saw certain household appliances being delivered, so we’re expecting their arrival any day,” Ms Boyle said.
She feels the main opposition locally to migrants in Fermoy is around safety – both for locals and migrants – and the lack of key services.
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Ms Boyle and her family live just four doors down from Abbeyville House and says the concern among many parents is the safety of women given the expected arrival of a large number of males in Fermoy.
"That is the main driver behind the protests,” she said, adding that she also had concerns over background checks.
"We also don’t believe women and children should be uprooted from one part of the country, just to accommodate more incoming males, and moved to Fermoy. We don’t want to be part of this exercise,” she said.
The protesters want Abbeyville House to be used as a community resource facility or emergency accommodation for locals who cannot source housing.
"We are a community organisation. We are there because our gut is telling us that we are genuinely scared. The people protesting with us don’t even know what all these labels (far-right) mean,” Ms Boyle said.
Lastly, she feels the protesters are unsure if they would talk to certain mainstream media for fear of being ‘portrayed unfairly’.
"Some of them haven’t come near us. The media is doing a lot to fuel the division. They seem to be of the belief that we are silly and are looking at the wrong media telling us what to do. We’re seeing what’s happening with our own eyes,” she said.
The Department of Integration has been contacted for comment over Government plans for Abbeyville House.

 

[CharlieManson]

Pay wall sorted :

Stephen Fernane
Kerryman
Today at 06:15

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A Kerry woman is a leading campaigner against plans to house 56 International Protection Applicants at historic Abbeyville House in Fermoy in County Cork.
Laura Boyle, who is originally from Tralee but moved to Fermoy in 1995, handed 2,059 signatures from Fermoy locals to TD Mattie McGrath in late December when residents were told the men were to be accommodated in the 19th century townhouse.
The protest is ongoing for over 50 days with a tent set up near Abbeyville House to enable protesters take turns in keeping a 24/7 presence at the site. A special ‘day of activities’ at the tent is being planned for St Patrick’s Day.

“We rallied to the call immediately on December 12 when we were told the men were arriving. The house is still empty but just today (Thursday) we saw certain household appliances being delivered, so we’re expecting their arrival any day,” Ms Boyle said.
She feels the main opposition locally to migrants in Fermoy is around safety – both for locals and migrants – and the lack of key services.
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Ms Boyle and her family live just four doors down from Abbeyville House and says the concern among many parents is the safety of women given the expected arrival of a large number of males in Fermoy.
"That is the main driver behind the protests,” she said, adding that she also had concerns over background checks.
"We also don’t believe women and children should be uprooted from one part of the country, just to accommodate more incoming males, and moved to Fermoy. We don’t want to be part of this exercise,” she said.
The protesters want Abbeyville House to be used as a community resource facility or emergency accommodation for locals who cannot source housing.
"We are a community organisation. We are there because our gut is telling us that we are genuinely scared. The people protesting with us don’t even know what all these labels (far-right) mean,” Ms Boyle said.
Lastly, she feels the protesters are unsure if they would talk to certain mainstream media for fear of being ‘portrayed unfairly’.
"Some of them haven’t come near us. The media is doing a lot to fuel the division. They seem to be of the belief that we are silly and are looking at the wrong media telling us what to do. We’re seeing what’s happening with our own eyes,” she said.
The Department of Integration has been contacted for comment over Government plans for Abbeyville House.

Seems like a perfectly reasonable position.


Certainly not deserving of the level of criticism directed at her.

Integration has been a complete shambles. From conception to execution.

Bravo to those peacefully challenging this bone headed and divisive policy.

 

[Crankycorner]

Seems like a perfectly reasonable position.


Certainly not deserving of the level of criticism directed at her.

Integration has been a complete shambles. From conception to execution.

Bravo to those peacefully challenging this bone headed and divisive policy.

That’s a smokescreen Dan. In reality her posts and videos on social media reveal her real motivations.

It’s immaterial now anyway. She lost. There are asylum seekers in the house and the protest group which she started need to stop abusing people who enter the house and recording those who leave it. If they don’t they’ll be dealt with by the Gardaí. That could be what they want.

 

[CharlieManson]

That’s a smokescreen Dan. In reality her posts and videos on social media reveal her real motivations.

It’s immaterial now anyway. She lost. There are asylum seekers in the house and the protest group which she started need to stop abusing people who enter the house and recording those who leave it. If they don’t they’ll be dealt with by the Gardaí. That could be what they want.

Sorry but that's nonsense.

You've at times characterised this lady far right and racist . I find zero evidence of either. She clearly articulated her concerns about having 52 male single asylum seekers from God knows where being moved in four doors down..

Id say garnering 1000s of signatures and petitioning politicians to get this decision reversed and families moved in is very much a win.


Id say her example is one for other unhappy homeowners affected by daft integration policy to follow.

You said yourself on numerous times you think Fermoy is a dump and you're only renting there to save a deposit to move back to the City. I fail to see why you need to villify people who are there for the long haul

 

[Crankycorner]

Sorry but that's nonsense.

You've at times characterised this lady far right and racist . I find zero evidence of either. She clearly articulated her concerns about having 52 male single asylum seekers from God knows where being moved in four doors down..

Id say garnering 1000s of signatures and petitioning politicians to get this decision reversed and families moved in is very much a win.


Id say her example is one for other unhappy homeowners affected by daft integration policy to follow.

You said yourself on numerous times you think Fermoy is a dump and you're only renting there to save a deposit to move back to the City. I fail to see why you need to villify people who are there for the long haul

But they aren’t 52 males. It’s 9/10 families. And those signatures were not thousands of Fermoy people. The town has never supported this protest despite her desperate attempts to say otherwise. The pitiful attendance at the tent and public meetings organised by them is proof of that.

 

[CharlieManson]

But they aren’t 52 males. It’s 9/10 families. And those signatures were not thousands of Fermoy people. The town has never supported this protest despite her desperate attempts to say otherwise. The pitiful attendance at the tent and public meetings organised by them is proof of that.

Are you even reading my posts?

On the back of this protests engagement with politicians its been changed from single male IP applicants to families.

They had a petition with 2000+ signatures. Thats some going in a town of 6k.


You've obviously got an axe to grind with this lady, resorting to churlish insults instead of engaging with her well articulated concerns

Wherever they've tried to parachute in asylum seekers with zero local notice or engagement theres been immediate and widespread protest.

Guff about the far right doesn't cut it anymore. Integration as a policy has been a disaster and people dont want it. Those behind it wont survive the next election.

 

[mr.selfDestruct]

That’s a smokescreen Dan. In reality her posts and videos on social media reveal her real motivations.

Associating with likes of Philip Dwyer, Blighe and Mick O'Keeffe isn't a good look for anyone.