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[Drucker]

Marketing it as an SUV doesn’t make it one.

Leave them off. They’re easily led.

A 2WD jacked up hatchback is not an SUV.
No matter how many car salesmen tell you it is.
And as we all know, just because VW says so, doesn’t necessarily mean it’s true……

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[Hank Scorpio]

They are not. The Tiguan is not much bigger than a Golf. Just higher. The Touareg is an SUV. The Sportage is not one either.

It’s very clear what some are doing though. Lumping all of these cars in together as if somehow a Tiguan and a Range Rover are the same.

Sorry but thats bollocks.

The Tiguan has 95hp more than a Golf, Torque 120Nm more, its longer, wider and higher with double the boot space. Greater acceleration and top speed.

By all definable characteristics its a far bigger, more powerful vehicle.





The main difference in all the vehicles mentioned is affordability. The Asian vehicles are the best priced along with the much improved Dacia.


Mid range you have you VW, Audi, Ford.

Then top of the market of you have your Volvo, Mercedes, Range Rover.



Personally having driven most of them I wouldn't opt for a RR the handling is poor and they are for my mind not worth the extra cost. People like the snob value but there you go.


End of the day people drive the car they can afford, only wankers scoff at people who drive older, cheaper models.

Same as lycra clad assholes who think they own the road as they can get upto 50 on the roadbike they've dropped 3 or 4k on. The prevalence of dashcams will make fruitcakes complaints to the Gardai pointless as motorists can simply present their own footage to Garda showing dangerous road position from cyclists on a single lane route.

 

[Crankycorner]

Sorry but thats bollocks.

The Tiguan has 95hp more than a Golf, Torque 120Nm more, its longer, wider and higher with double the boot space. Greater acceleration and top speed.

By all definable characteristics its a far bigger, more powerful vehicle.





The main difference in all the vehicles mentioned is affordability. The Asian vehicles are the best priced along with the much improved Dacia.


Mid range you have you VW, Audi, Ford.

Then top of the market of you have your Volvo, Mercedes, Range Rover.



Personally having driven most of them I wouldn't opt for a RR the handling is poor and they are for my mind not worth the extra cost. People like the snob value but there you go.


End of the day people drive the car they can afford, only wankers scoff at people who drive older, cheaper models.

Sorry but that’s also bollox. The diesel engines in the Golf and Tiguan are the exact same. Both 2.0 diesel with 150 bhp.

Price is a massive factor no doubt. €50k for an R Line Tiguan v €37k for a golf. It is bigger no doubt but why a car like a Tiguan is treated as worse than a Passat is baffling to me. Tiguans etc are not in the same class of car as a RR, Q7, X7, GLS and people need to stop treating those who buy them like they are buying this tank which will ruin the planet.

 

[Hank Scorpio]

Sorry but that’s also bollox. The diesel engines in the Golf and Tiguan are the exact same. Both 2.0 diesel with 150 bhp.

Price is a massive factor no doubt. €50k for an R Line Tiguan v €37k for a golf. It is bigger no doubt but why a car like a Tiguan is treated as worse than a Passat is baffling to me. Tiguans etc are not in the same class of car as a RR, Q7, X7, GLS and people need to stop treating those who buy them like they are buying this tank which will ruin the planet.

Again you're not comparing like with like.

A 2.0 TSI Tiguan has 245hp compared with the 1.5 TSI Golf 150 Hp


You've said its 'not much bigger' then you say ' it is bigger no doubt'.

All over the place m8.

 

[Crankycorner]

Again you're not comparing like with like.

A 2.0 TSI Tiguan has 245hp compared with the 1.5 TSI Golf 150 Hp


You've said its 'not much bigger' then you say ' it is bigger no doubt'.

All over the place m8.

I’ve literally compared the diesel engine in both. They’re the same.

I’m not at all saying they are the same car. I’m saying a Tiguan is not that much bigger. It is bigger but those who portray a Tiguan as a gas guzzling SUV and cars like a Golf not so are way off the mark.

Can’t imagine too many have bought a 2.0 TSI Tiguan.

I think we’re agreeing with each other here on 90% of what we’re saying.

 

[Hank Scorpio]

I’ve literally compared the diesel engine in both. They’re the same.

I’m not at all saying they are the same car. I’m saying a Tiguan is not that much bigger. It is bigger but those who portray a Tiguan as a gas guzzling SUV and cars like a Golf not so are way off the mark.

Can’t imagine too many have bought a 2.0 TSI Tiguan.

I think we’re agreeing with each other here on 90% of what we’re saying.

Nope, the entry level in both arnt remotely similar.

If you want the 2.0 Golf you're paying a lot more.

 

[Crankycorner]

Nope, the entry level in both arnt remotely similar.

If you want the 2.0 Golf you're paying a lot more.

Entry level Tiguan as 7 more bhp than a golf. You’d hardly notice that. The R Lime trim on both has the same engine.

 

[Hank Scorpio]

Entry level Tiguan as 7 more bhp than a golf. You’d hardly notice that. The R Lime trim on both has the same engine.

So besides hp, torgue, width, height, length, double boot capacity its 'not much bigger than a Golf'


lol

 

[Crankycorner]

So besides hp, torgue, width, height, length, double boot capacity its 'not much bigger than a Golf'


lol

Splitting hairs now pal. ‘Not much bigger’ still means bigger.

 

[Hank Scorpio]

Splitting hairs now pal. ‘Not much bigger’ still means bigger.

You were talking bollocks and you got called on it.