Sweden moving in the direction of the right wing

[The High King]

I know but Ireland does not have an "Open borders" policy by any stretch of the imagination.

You keep banging that pedantic drum m8.
The numbers were spiraling, any refugee from any part of the EU was free to relocate here shortly after arriving and they were starting to come in increased numbers. Without the change of rules we would have been Sweden style swamped.

 

[Hank Scorpio]

Let it go Dan.

Ireland does not have an "Open borders" policy.

We would be swamped if it had.

They don't now but we've effectively had one for the last few years.

The system was open to abuse and
those seeking asylum in Ireland after first entering the EU through another country skyrocketed.


Thats why they changed the rules.


You keep gnawing on your bone m8.

 

[The High King]

This is a good point as like the U.K. it had to take in people from the Dutch east Indies etc. while Sweden was always a bit insular while the Netherlands is very liberal and open for trade for many centuries while Sweden trampled on its neighbours.

How did Sweden trample on its neighbours?
The dutch behaved awfully in it's colonies m8.
The swedes opened it's doors in a magnanimous gesture of hospitality and it ended up biting them on the ass.

 

[Stacky]

They don't now but we've effectively had one for the last few years.

The system was open to abuse and
those seeking asylum in Ireland after first entering the EU skyrocketed.


Thats why they changed the rules.


You keep gnawing on your bone m8.

All systems are open to abuse but Ireland never had an "Open borders policy"

 

[Hank Scorpio]

All systems are open to abuse but Ireland never had an "Open borders policy"

'Effectively', you pedantic dullard.

 

[Stacky]

How did Sweden trample on its neighbours?
The dutch behaved awfully in it's colonies m8.
The swedes opened it's doors in a magnanimous gesture of hospitality and it ended up biting them on the ass.

The Sweden had imperial ambitions and invaded all its neighbours as well as the European mainland.

No one is supporting colonisation.

 

[Stacky]

'Effectively', you pedantic dullard.

You are very determined in fairness.

 

[Fermoylad]

All systems are open to abuse but Ireland never had an "Open borders policy"

 

[TheOutdoorThreadmill]

You keep banging that pedantic drum m8.
The numbers were spiraling, any refugee from any part of the EU was free to relocate here shortly after arriving and they were starting to come in increased numbers. Without the change of rules we would have been Sweden style swamped.

You watch any of the airport/border shows on TV and decisions on entry to countries are made at the airport. We should have trained asylum/refugee decision makers at point of entry and their decision is final. None of this nonsense of 5/10 year appeals process.

 

[The High King]

You watch any of the airport/border shows on TV and decisions on entry to countries are made at the airport. We should have trained asylum/refugee decision makers at point of entry and their decision is final. None of this nonsense of 5/10 year appeals process.

I agree, but at the moment we've effectively closed the door because who the hell gets a plane from outside the EU to Ireland?
Entirely necessary imo.

The we need workers spiel is a nonsense as well spouted by the reprehensible hospitality industry etc who want to keep on treating their employees like shit while claiming tax breaks and price gouging to beat the band.
Also all the Ukrainian women are already starting to move into the hospitality sector and in a few years their kids will start to look for employment as well.

The construction industry isn't short workers, it's short materials and affordable projects. Until that is fixed then it will remain stagnant. If the jobs were there at good wages the young wouldn't be leaving or planning to leave in droves.