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Trump is back baby!

Who will win the debate

  • Trump

    Votes: 17 33.3%
  • Harris

    Votes: 22 43.1%
  • I genuinely don’t care at this stage

    Votes: 12 23.5%

  • Total voters
    51
  • Poll closed .

Trump softens tariff tone amid empty shelves warning, market slump​



The Spine Of Steel
They never licked his arse! :rolleyes:
US President Donald Trump has signaled a potential U-turn on his trade war with China amid continued market volatility, saying the high tariffs on Chinese goods will “come down substantially, but it won’t be zero.”

Trump’s remarks, made at a White House news event Tuesday, appear to mark a rhetorical climbdown after weeks of tough posturing and tit-for-tat retaliation that sent tariffs on China beyond a staggering 145%.

“145% is very high and it won’t be that high,” Trump said in a question-and-answer session with reporters in the Oval Office. “It won’t be anywhere near that high. It’ll come down substantially. But it won’t be zero.”
 
I'd imagine Xi still won't budge until the couch fucker is made to publically apologize for his peasants remark.

Peasants remark aside, Xi has Trump over a barrel here and has very little incentive to take his foot off his neck. If nothing else, who's to say Trump won't just tear up any agreement again?

The common narrative is that Xi will give him an off ramp to save face but I don't see why he would
^ onions

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Bully in retreat?
Indeed, Trump’s zig-zags raises the possibility the opposition can achieve the best of both worlds: A little less damage to the country and the world, along with a continued decline in Trump’s popularity.

One might also note that it’s the markets that forced this change. What lesson can politicians, especially Democrats, learn from this? Well, if I can put it this way, imitate the markets. Be tough. Send a clear and unequivocal message.

That message should be that Donald Trump is both a dangerous autocrat with destructive plans, but also that he is a bully who cowers in a real fight. The good news is that no figure is more contemptible than a bully in retreat.

“When people feel uncertain, they’d rather have someone strong and wrong than weak and right,” Bill Clinton said way back in 2002.

Could we be entering a period when the public sees that Trump is both wrong and weak?
 
Bully in retreat?
Indeed, Trump’s zig-zags raises the possibility the opposition can achieve the best of both worlds: A little less damage to the country and the world, along with a continued decline in Trump’s popularity.

One might also note that it’s the markets that forced this change. What lesson can politicians, especially Democrats, learn from this? Well, if I can put it this way, imitate the markets. Be tough. Send a clear and unequivocal message.

That message should be that Donald Trump is both a dangerous autocrat with destructive plans, but also that he is a bully who cowers in a real fight. The good news is that no figure is more contemptible than a bully in retreat.

“When people feel uncertain, they’d rather have someone strong and wrong than weak and right,” Bill Clinton said way back in 2002.

Could we be entering a period when the public sees that Trump is both wrong and weak?
No.
 
Bully in retreat?
Indeed, Trump’s zig-zags raises the possibility the opposition can achieve the best of both worlds: A little less damage to the country and the world, along with a continued decline in Trump’s popularity.

One might also note that it’s the markets that forced this change. What lesson can politicians, especially Democrats, learn from this? Well, if I can put it this way, imitate the markets. Be tough. Send a clear and unequivocal message.

That message should be that Donald Trump is both a dangerous autocrat with destructive plans, but also that he is a bully who cowers in a real fight. The good news is that no figure is more contemptible than a bully in retreat.

“When people feel uncertain, they’d rather have someone strong and wrong than weak and right,” Bill Clinton said way back in 2002.

Could we be entering a period when the public sees that Trump is both wrong and weak?
It'll take years and for a large swath of the population, it'll never change

None of the supposed benefits of Brexit have appeared and an awful lot of negative consequences have turned up. I can't think of a single tangible benefit of Brexit, and I can't recall a single politician saying it has been delivered well, just a circle of blame among brexiters saying someone else cocked it up.

And yet:
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So yeah, clear majority saying it was a bad idea but still 30% think it was the right decision, 9 years on.
 
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