The next Government

[PROCNA2018]

No electricity please, we're Irish.

We can have all the electricity we want - problem is Ryan doesn't like how we are generating it.

 

[Stacky]

We can have all the electricity we want - problem is Ryan doesn't like how we are generating it.

All the global climate accords apply here no matter who is in Government as we as a State have fully signed up to it.

Fossil fuels are expensive and mostly supplied by unreliable corrupt despots or has to come through the U.K. first.
Hydro, Solar and wind power are less expensive.
We will be getting nuclear power shortly from France.

If the science behind it is sound and fully tested, I have no problem with it.

I have no idea why all the Republican/Nationalist's here want us to be fully dependent on others for power and defence etc as well as keeping any resources that we discover and actually need in the ground.

"Ourselves Alone" is just an empty slogan.

 

[Stacky]

No electricity please, we're Irish.

No to wind turbines
No to solar.
No to nuclear.
No to power interconnectors.
No to gas interconnectors.


Just head up the back of the bog there and cut some turf..........

 

[PROCNA2018]

YES to wind turbines
YES to solar.
No to nuclear.
YES to power interconnectors.
YES to gas interconnectors.

AND head up the back of the bog there and cut some turf..........

And pull our oil and gas out of the ground.

Like the Saudi's are doing, the yanks are doing, the Norwegians are doing....................

 

[Stacky]

And pull our oil and gas out of the ground.

Like the Saudi's are doing, the yanks are doing, the Norwegians are doing....................

What do we do in 20 - 30 years when that runs out?

 

[PROCNA2018]

All the global climate accords apply here no matter who is in Government as we as a State have fully signed up to it.

Fossil fuels are expensive and mostly supplied by unreliable corrupt despots or has to come through the U.K. first.
Hydro, Solar and wind power are less expensive.
We will be getting nuclear power shortly from France.

If the science behind it is sound and fully tested, I have no problem with it.

I have no idea why all the Republican/Nationalist's here want us to be fully dependent on others for power and defence etc as well as keeping any resources that we discover and actually need in the ground.

"Ourselves Alone" is just an empty slogan.

Ah stop - it has nothing to do with ourselves alone or republicanism or nationalism.

It's about doing what everyone else is doing and not self-flagellating ourselves to be the best in the climate change class and give ourselves a million attaboys when it damages our economy and we are not infrastructurally ready for it. Winning the climate change gold star when people are being killed on the N20 for decades. Stopping turf cutting, stopping oil and gas exploitation, when the Norwegians are opening new wells all over the world and no one says "baaaddddd Norwegians".
Pushing us into EV while adding carbon taxes and the VRT on them so the cost is exorbitant and the only place that has anything like the number of chargers we would need is Dublin. Happily burning carbon to put in Metrolink in Dublin cos it's ok as long as it is in Dublin but a flyover in West Cork - no culchies must suffer.

 

[PROCNA2018]

What do we do in 20 - 30 years when that runs out?

Use the 20-30 years to plan and prepare for the place you want to fast forward to now.

 

[Stacky]

Ah stop - it has nothing to do with ourselves alone or republicanism or nationalism.

It's about doing what everyone else is doing and not self-flagellating ourselves to be the best in the climate change class and give ourselves a million attaboys when it damages our economy and we are not infrastructurally ready for it. Winning the climate change gold star when people are being killed on the N20 for decades. Stopping turf cutting, stopping oil and gas exploitation, when the Norwegians are opening new wells all over the world and no one says "baaaddddd Norwegians".
Pushing us into EV while adding carbon taxes and the VRT on them so the cost is exorbitant and the only place that has anything like the number of chargers we would need is Dublin. Happily burning carbon to put in Metrolink in Dublin cos it's ok as long as it is in Dublin but a flyover in West Cork - no culchies must suffer.

Everyone else has oil, gas, renewables as well as nuclear?

We are at the end of a very long pipe from Putin or Mohammed. (Unreliable despots) and high fossil fuel energy is damaging our economy right now.

No point having an "economy" if the island is flooded.

I am sure that there is a program of EV chargers from Electric Ireland and Private operators on the go right now and continuing to use inefficient smoky turf in 2022 is just mad.

 

[Stacky]

Use the 20-30 years to plan and prepare for the place you want to fast forward to now.

This is Ireland.

No long-term planning-just election cycle to election cycle promises (Low tax and you will not have to pay for anything ever type promises)

 

[Minstrel]

What sort of a gowl is Josepha Madigan with her tweet about the tragedy in Donegal. Typical FG bullshit.