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[Stacky]

So then he should be honest and say the USC temporary nature was never the intent and it was a stealth tax and not just for the crash.

Taxes are never "temporary" and they are never simply "abolished" no matter what politicians promise you.

 

[Minstrel]

Why would any Government sign up to an 8 or 10% commitment for the P.S. when the P.S. unions and the Govt are talking about a 5% raise?

Shoving a big pay increase during an inflationary period is just poor economics.

The Government might be talking about 5% ( Ive not seen it tbh) but the Unions certainly are not.

 

[Stacky]

The Government might be talking about 5% ( Ive not seen it tbh) but the Unions certainly are not.

 

[Minstrel]

Is that your way of telling us you might have been wrong about the Unions?

 

[Stacky]

Is that your way of telling us you might have been wrong about the Unions?

 

[Minstrel]

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You do know its ok to admit you were wrong. No one will think any less of you. God knows I've been wrong plenty of times on here.

So were you wrong about the Unions looking for 5%? If not can you provide a link to show where they did.

Thanks.

 

[Stacky]

You do know its ok to admit you were wrong. No one will think any less of you. God knows I've been wrong plenty of times on here.

So were you wrong about the Unions looking for 5%? If not can you provide a link to show where they did.

Thanks.

Stacky said:
Why would any Government sign up to an 8 or 10% commitment for the P.S. when the P.S. unions and the Govt are talking about a 5% raise?


RTE NEWS 18-06-22

The Irish Congress of Trade Unions said in a statement that the Government had offered supplementary pay rises of 2.5% for the period 2021-2022 and a further 2.5% pay rise for next year - numbers which ICTU said fell far short of inflation.

Government sources were quick to point out that the increases would come on top of a 2% rise already in place under the existing public sector pay agreement, delivering a cumulative rise of 7% and bringing the total cost of the pay deal to €2.3 billion.

"We've been clear from the beginning of this process that we could not chase inflation and it was important to avoid measures that would exacerbate inflationary pressures," they said.

If you think that the Unions are going to get 8-10% rise from the State the only way that will happen if they somehow will the Euro Millions every single week.

 

[Minstrel]

You do know its ok to admit you were wrong. No one will think any less of you. God knows I've been wrong plenty of times on here.

So were you wrong about the Unions looking for 5%? If not can you provide a link to show where they did.

Thanks.

Stacky said:
Why would any Government sign up to an 8 or 10% commitment for the P.S. when the P.S. unions and the Govt are talking about a 5% raise?


RTE NEWS 18-06-22

The Irish Congress of Trade Unions said in a statement that the Government had offered supplementary pay rises of 2.5% for the period 2021-2022 and a further 2.5% pay rise for next year - numbers which ICTU said fell far short of inflation.

Government sources were quick to point out that the increases would come on top of a 2% rise already in place under the existing public sector pay agreement, delivering a cumulative rise of 7% and bringing the total cost of the pay deal to €2.3 billion.

"We've been clear from the beginning of this process that we could not chase inflation and it was important to avoid measures that would exacerbate inflationary pressures," they said.

If you think that the Unions are going to get 8-10% rise from the State the only way that will happen if they somehow will the Euro Millions every single week.

So once again I'll ask - where did the Unions talk about a 5% rise? The only 5% they mentioned was the governments one.

The 8-10% is my opinion. If I'm wrong I'll come out and admit it. I won't beat around the bush because I dont like being wrong.

 

[Stacky]

So once again I'll ask - where did the Unions talk about a 5% rise? The only 5% they mentioned was the governments one.

The 8-10% is my opinion. If I'm wrong I'll come out and admit it. I won't beat around the bush because I dont like being wrong.

You are almost there...............

 

[PROCNA2018]

Taxes are never "temporary" and they are never simply "abolished" no matter what politicians promise you.

Understood - all I am saying is then that is not how it should have been explained to the public - ya know the whole honesty thing.