The County Board Complaints Thread

[cactus jack]

Rebels Online misses out as Cork GAA accepts TG4 request to broadcast Premier SHC final

Elsewhere, Cork GAA chairman Pat Horgan has said there is “no update” on the county board-owned Kilbarry landbank that recently received planning permission for more than 300 homes

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[leeside_rebel]

Glanmire were approved at last nights county board meeting to join the city division, leaving Imokilly.
Any chance it could lead to other clubs doing similar?
For clubs like Ballincollig or Blarney would it make sense? both of whom would be classed as city anyway in other aspects with the new boundaries.

 

[AllCork32]

Glanmire were approved at last nights county board meeting to join the city division, leaving Imokilly.
Any chance it could lead to other clubs doing similar?
For clubs like Ballincollig or Blarney would it make sense? both of whom would be classed as city anyway in other aspects with the new boundaries.

Muskerry eventually will just be split between the neighbouring divisions id say.

 

[omar]

Glanmire were approved at last nights county board meeting to join the city division, leaving Imokilly.
Any chance it could lead to other clubs doing similar?
For clubs like Ballincollig or Blarney would it make sense? both of whom would be classed as city anyway in other aspects with the new boundaries.

It would make sense for Blarney as all the other northside clubs play in the City Division.

 

[junior footballer]

Makes total sense for glanmire at least

 

[cactus jack]

Keith Ricken and Fergal McCormack named Cork minor bosses

The respective football and hurling team managers have been handed one-year terms.

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1 year term a bit unusual? Best of luck to both anyway

 

[leeside_rebel]

Keith Ricken and Fergal McCormack named Cork minor bosses

The respective football and hurling team managers have been handed one-year terms.

www.irishexaminer.com

1 year term a bit unusual? Best of luck to both anyway

You'd think one year isn't giving the management much time at it really, bit of an all or nothing scenario. But I presume there's reasons behind the thinking.
Good to see Ricken back involved, think the 16-21 age group is his strength

 

[Elmnop]

Keith Ricken: Rebel Óg must develop strong underage rivalries to save northside football

'We played Na Piarsaigh this season at U14 and it was like the good old days as many of these young lads go to school together and that brings an ...

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Not only does the Northside need to return to more local & parish rivalries but the whole county does,
Some of the distances travelled for underage matches is crazy

 

[omar]

Keith Ricken: Rebel Óg must develop strong underage rivalries to save northside football

'We played Na Piarsaigh this season at U14 and it was like the good old days as many of these young lads go to school together and that brings an ...

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Not only does the Northside need to return to more local & parish rivalries but the whole county does,
Some of the distances travelled for underage matches is crazy

I think the system works better for P1 or P2 clubs. These usually are either traditionally strong clubs or clubs with bigger catchment areas.

The odd smaller club with a strong age group break through.

You can see smaller clubs in the some poorer areas of the City have struggled since the move to the Rebel Og regional system at Div 1-3 level. It's not a coincidence imo.

Before they were traveling 10 - 15 mins to most of their away games.

Back in the day Vincents and Mayfield for example would generally play B in the City vs the likes of Dillons, Whitechurch, Passage, Delanys etc and then the bigger clubs B teams. They might have an A team the odd year or Micheals might be B the odd year etc.

Logistically much easier to manage for those clubs.

The village mentality means rural clubs will usually have plenty of volunteers. In some areas of the City you need to make it more attractive to volunteers.

I'm not sure about the local rivalry aspect. I mean Vincents played Na Piarsaigh because Na Piarsaigh have dropped the grades at some age groups otherwise it would have been uncompetitive.

You might have had that Vincents team playing a Nicks or Piarsaigh B team 25 years ago. Maybe that's still a local rivalry but the days of those clubs having B teams are long gone due to changing demographics.

I don't think there's an easy solution to this but I do think a city division at underage could be explored at regional level for sure.

 

[red&blue]

I think the system works better for P1 or P2 clubs. These usually are either traditionally strong clubs or clubs with bigger catchment areas.

The odd smaller club with a strong age group break through.

Rebel Og works better for the stronger teams as mostly they come from the city and it’s surrounds

You can see smaller clubs in the some poorer areas of the City have struggled since the move to the Rebel Og regional system at Div 1-3 level. It's not a coincidence imo.

Before they were traveling 10 - 15 mins to most of their away games.

Back in the day Vincents and Mayfield for example would generally play B in the City vs the likes of Dillons, Whitechurch, Passage, Delanys etc and then the bigger clubs B teams. They might have an A team the odd year or Micheals might be B the odd year etc.

Logistically much easier to manage for those clubs.

This was the big mistake Rebel Og made.

Logistically it is much easier to be playing teams in your vicinity rather than having to travel half way across the county to play

And the sense of rivalry that existed in the old bord na nOg made the games seem more important than they actually were because of bragging rights etc

I don’t think people from outside the large urban Center understand the challenges clubs like Vincents and Dillon’s have to deal with. We are slowly killing them

The village mentality means rural clubs will usually have plenty of volunteers. In some areas of the City you need to make it more attractive to volunteers.

I'm not sure about the local rivalry aspect. I mean Vincents played Na Piarsaigh because Na Piarsaigh have dropped the grades at some age groups otherwise it would have been uncompetitive.

Both points above seem to contradict each other. That village mentality you talk about also existed in the city clubs but it was called parish mentality

Local rivalries are the bedrock of the GAA wether that’s the Barrs and the Glen or Dillons and Mayfield

You might have had that Vincents team playing a Nicks or Piarsaigh B team 25 years ago. Maybe that's still a local rivalry but the days of those clubs having B teams are long gone due to changing demographics.

Demographics play a part in B teams but so does local rivalry and clubs pushing each other to become better so you are not left behind by your local rivals. Rebel Og have decimated that

I don't think there's an easy solution to this but I do think a city division at underage could be explored at regional level for sure.

The one galling mistake Rebel Og made when setting up their new regions was to not have a city region where teams played a match at every age group every week.

Instead the board pandered to the country clubs who wanted to enter every age group but refused to play a match every week for every team

And now we see the consequences coming through in articles like Rickens