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Russia's unjustifiable war of aggression in Ukraine

You are playing loose with facts, the fact of the matter is firstly there is no unpopularity to the Russian gvt plans for Ukraine much of that is played up in the West and there is a lot of turning this conflict into a democracy v dictatorship situation ignoring that the Russians only went in to stop the violence in the Donbass.
As for RT, that is a reputable site yes it is state sanctioned but that's how things are done in Russia, they don't have the crass commercialism of the west and oh yeah it was a mistake to ban it and Sputnik because it makes us as bad. We talk about free speech but than go and exercise censorship.

And you produced this based on the satellite picture of Ukraine from FIRMS used to track fires globally?

RT is not reputable same as RIA Novosti or Komsomolskaya Pravda and many many other shit papers used purely to manipulate less intellectually capable humans.

Russians went "only" to stop (imaginary) violence (and Nazism, we cannot forget about Nazism) from Ukrainians in Ukrainian land which is in conflict with Russia supported puppet quasi-countries created by the very same Russia. So as a result they attacked Kiev, Kherson, Mariupol, bombed Lviv in Donbas area, killing civilians, committing war crimes. Makes sense.

It was from 2008 dictatorship Vs democracy. Just you must missed that listening to RT.

Sputnik and RT were banned for spreading misinformation, propaganda, hate speech, not because they were not commercialized. Those are state media... Just to give you a hint, you are not able to watch Russian propaganda anywhere where it was possible in Europe prior to the war (apart from Russia and Belarus, but I might be wrong Serbia maybe allows).

You also try to say something abut free speech at the end which when reading your previous paragraph about Russian media not being even close to free speech, you demand (suggest maybe?) a free speech rights to someone who breaks free speech rules. Well, Sir this is getting to be a fantastic absurd.

I should paste here (again) the infographic on paradox of tolerance. Same rule applies as to free speech.

I am always amazed how some people believe in what they want to believe in and ignore any evidence that they are simply wrong. It actually has its own term: Confirmation bias. You are looking to confirm your assumptions fueled with Russian propaganda. That's all. I would start from blocking Russian propaganda for week or two and start walks, loads of walks in the fresh air to get rid of toxic fumes from your body :)
 
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You are playing loose with facts, the fact of the matter is firstly there is no unpopularity to the Russian gvt plans for Ukraine much of that is played up in the West and there is a lot of turning this conflict into a democracy v dictatorship situation ignoring that the Russians only went in to stop the violence in the Donbass.
As for RT, that is a reputable site yes it is state sanctioned but that's how things are done in Russia, they don't have the crass commercialism of the west and oh yeah it was a mistake to ban it and Sputnik because it makes us as bad. We talk about free speech but than go and exercise censorship.
Seriously?? by flattening the cities and towns of the Donbass :rolleyes: like this Russian army their army of useful idiots are shit also(n) ,
 
And you produced this based on the satellite picture of Ukraine from FIRMS used to track fires globally?

RT is not reputable same as RIA Novosti or Komsomolskaya Pravda and many many other shit papers used purely to manipulate less intellectually capable humans.

Russians went "only" to stop (imaginary) violence (and Nazism, we cannot forget about Nazism) from Ukrainians in Ukrainian land which is in conflict with Russia supported puppet quasi-countries created by the very same Russia. So as a result they attacked Kiev, Kherson, Mariupol, bombed Lviv in Donbas area, killing civilians, committing war crimes. Makes sense.

It was from 2008 dictatorship Vs democracy. Just you must missed that listening to RT.

Sputnik and RT were banned for spreading misinformation, propaganda, hate speech, not because they were not commercialized. Those are state media... Just to give you a hint, you are not able to watch Russian propaganda anywhere where it was possible in Europe prior to the war (apart from Russia and Belarus, but I might be wrong Serbia maybe allows).

You also try to say something abut free speech at the end which when reading your previous paragraph about Russian media not being even close to free speech, you demand (suggest maybe?) a free speech rights to someone who breaks free speech rules. Well, Sir this is getting to be a fantastic absurd.

I should paste here (again) the infographic on paradox of tolerance. Same rule applies as to free speech.

I am always amazed how some people believe in what they want to believe in and ignore any evidence that they are simply wrong. It actually has its own term: Confirmation bias. You are looking to confirm your assumptions fueled with Russian propaganda. That's all. I would start from blocking Russian propaganda for week or two and start walks, loads of walks in the fresh air to get rid of toxic fumes from your body :)
Russian propaganda there is Ukrainian propaganda as well, Ukraine's human rights chief was sacked from her job for exaggerating rape claims of Russian soldiers, heard this from RT was not a mention of it in the so called free western world news.
Than you have the PROC acting as a conduit for all sorts of anti Russian bias, I read some of the posts and the amount of times I hear posters calling on NATO to intervene and lambasting Scholz, Macron and Draghi for entertaining talks with Moscow is ridiculous.
Let's put this to bed the only way the war will be resolved in through dialogue, a rocket through Putin's window won't solve this and besides even if and this would never happen but if Putin was deposed in a coup what stops the next Russian despot to follow through with his predecessors plans in Ukraine?
 
You are playing loose with facts, the fact of the matter is firstly there is no unpopularity to the Russian gvt plans for Ukraine much of that is played up in the West and there is a lot of turning this conflict into a democracy v dictatorship situation ignoring that the Russians only went in to stop the violence in the Donbass.
As for RT, that is a reputable site yes it is state sanctioned but that's how things are done in Russia, they don't have the crass commercialism of the west and oh yeah it was a mistake to ban it and Sputnik because it makes us as bad. We talk about free speech but than go and exercise censorship.

Stfu you miserable wretch.
 
Stfu you miserable wretch.
I sympathise with the Ukrainians, they are fighting bravely but I really believe we can't get ahead of ourselves, no way will the Ukrainians be able to push the Russians out of those Russian speaking regions, Scholz, Macron and Draghi are right to keep dialogue open with Moscow.
 

A masterpiece of the Security Service of Ukraine: a medic from Mariupol Julia Pajewska pseudonym Tajra was released thanks to a hoax

Andrzej Pisalnik June 22, 2022, 4:50 pm

Adam Grycenko, son of a Chechen mafioso and friend of Ramzan Kadyrov, could cooperate as a pseudo hostage with Ukrainian special services in liberating a heroic volunteer medic from Russia

Russian "patriots" are enraged, and Chechen boss Ramzan Kadyrov is threatening journalists and bloggers with criminal persecution for informing about the circumstances of the release of the famous Ukrainian volunteer medic Julia Pajewska, pseudonym Tajra. The President of Ukraine, Volodymir Zelensky, himself announced on June 18 that she had been liberated from Russian captivity.

"They remembered the hooligan for Luis Corvalan, where b najti takuju piss, cztob for Brezhnev smieniat" (in Polish it could be: "They exchanged the hooligan for Luis Corvalan, where to find such a carcass to exchange for Brezhnev") - sang in the USSR, mocking Communist leadership of the country, which could be persuaded to release the Soviet dissident and political prisoner Vladimir Bukowski to the West in exchange for bringing to the USSR the head of the Communist Party of Chile, Luis Corvalan, arrested by the Augusto Pinochet regime.
The currently quoted chastushka (Russian satirical chant - ed.) Can be rewritten, and its heroes can be turned into a freed volunteer Julia Pajewska and the son of a Chechen criminal, who is a friend of the Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov, and on the other - an unknown "carcass" and, on the other hand, example, Vladimir Putin.

The Russians gave Tajra back and paid an additional 25 million

The point is that everything indicates that the Russians let themselves be made idiots by agreeing to exchange the "more dangerous criminal" Tajra, who, as they claimed, had the blood of innocent victims on their hands, for the Ukrainian citizen Adam Grycenko, the son of a friend of the head Chechnya, a respected Mafioso Murad Saidov in the criminal underworld.
The detention and imprisonment of the son of a Chechen criminal was most likely faked, and Adam Grycenko himself (bearing his mother's surname) after "Tajra" was free, did not even want to be embraced by his father and preferred to remain in Ukraine.
To make the story of his kidnapping by the SBU probable, the son of a Chechen mafioso gave an interview to a famous Ukrainian blogger Volodymir Zolkin, who posted the conversation on YouTube.
The icing on the cake, proving the final blame of the Russians with the described "exchange", is that the Ukrainian SBU not only liberated the Ukrainian heroine, whose removal from the battlefield was due to hundreds of Ukrainian soldiers wounded in battle. As part of the "exchange", the SBU forced the criminal Murad Saidov to pay 25 million rubles in cash for the "release" of his son.

An inquisitive journalist

The history of the "exchange" of "Tajra" with the son of a Chechen criminal would probably remain unknown for a long time, if not for the Russian war correspondent Irina Kuksenkowa. The reporter, cooperating with the First Channel of Russian television, began to receive information about the liberation of Yulia Pajewska, arrested by Russian soldiers and presented in the darkest colors by Russian propaganda. The Russian tabloid Komsomolskaya Pravda wrote about Tajra that when she escaped from the Azovstal plant in Mariupol to Russian soldiers on March 16, she pretended to be the mother of children whose parents she had just killed in cold blood. The propaganda work of the disgusting image of Julia Pajewska in the eyes of Russians was completed by a propaganda film broadcast by the Russian television NTW entitled "Tajra - a woman called ANIMAL".

Irina Kuksienkowa, convinced, like most Russians, that "Tajra" is a valuable asset, for which the Ukrainians will give a high price, and will certainly agree to exchange for high-ranking Russian prisoners or for a few captured soldiers, she began to check the information received by her on the release of Julia Pajewska.
At first she heard that it was not true, and "Tajra", as a valuable asset, was taken from Donbas to Moscow. A little later, after the release of Julia Pajewska, the President of Ukraine Volodymir Zelensky reported on social media, the Russian journalist forced a representative of the Ministry of Information of the self-proclaimed People's Republic of Donetsk to admit that "Tajra" had indeed been handed over to the Ukrainian side. "She was exchanged for our very solid boys," the official said, explaining the lack of information about the exchange of prisoners as "there are reasons for it."
Irina Kuksienkowa kept inquiring and finally published the following entry in Telegram: “Well. There was no exchange. But there was a cloudy pattern left. You know me, I'm an angry woman. Well, as of now - there was a pattern (corruption for me) in which a certain Isa Khachukayev and Murad Saidov released Adam Muradowicz Grycenka (son of Murad Saidov) detained in Ukraine. In addition, they gave 25 million rubles for it. "

A criminal and friend of the President of Chechnya

The journalist's entry was immediately passed on by hundreds of Internet users who did not leave a dry thread on the initiators of the exchange of "a woman called ANIMAL" for "someone's son".
The story of the father of a young man who was "exchanged" with "Tajra" added to the fire of indignation, published by Russian news portals. It turned out that Murad Saidov is a Chechen who lived in Mariupol for many years and was a famous representative of the criminal underworld in the Zaporizhia region there. In 2012, the Ukrainian police received permission to expel the Chechen mafioso from Ukraine. After the Russian annexation of Crimea, Saidov made his home on the peninsula, and in 2019 he found his way to the criminal newsletter and the Russian media after an armed skirmish between him and another Chechen man took place in one of the restaurants in Crimea, on which Saidov forced the handover of part of the business. Then Murad Saidov introduced himself to the Crimean policemen as an assistant to Isa Khachukayev,

The head of Chechnya then publicly confirmed his acquaintance with Murad Saidov, who was immediately released from custody.

Angry policemen revealed the scandal

Among the Russian "patriots" outraged by the circumstances of the liberation of Julia Pajewska "Tajra" was the well-known pro-Kremlin political scientist Sergey Markov.
Commenting on the exchange of "Tajra", the expert agreed with the opinions that the Russian side was deceptive. He added that the Russian police officers, as well as officers and soldiers fighting in Ukraine, were enraged by the circumstances of the operation, who they valued less than the "son of a Chechen criminal". In Markov's opinion, it was the policemen who informed the journalist about the circumstances of the "exchange", as they embittered and decided to reveal the scandal.
The Russian diplomat Nikolai Romanov, commenting on the entry by Sergei Markov, announced that the circumstances of the exchange of "Tajra" for a mafioso's son, already known to the public, indicate that he managed to "intercept" the entire operation on the Russian side, at the request of his friend, who was convinced that his son was sent to the torture chamber SBU, and the head of the Chechen Republic, Ramzan Kadyrov, was responsible for its implementation. "It was Kadyrov who made the ransom amount available," claims Nikolai Romanov, not hiding his respect for the SBU, which ideally, "following the best practices", carried out the operation to liberate the Ukrainian heroine.

"Liberated" for "Tajra" chose to stay in Ukraine

The information disseminated by the Ukrainian media should undoubtedly deal a blow to Ramzan Kadyrov, instigated by the SBU.
It says that the son of a friend of Kadyrov, allegedly imprisoned by the SBU, did not end up in Russia as part of the "exchange" carried out. He was released by Ukrainian officials to all four sides and, as a free man and a loyal citizen of Ukraine, he remained in his country. This means that on the Ukrainian side, the whole story with the replacement of Julia Pajewska with the son of an "important Chechen" was a hoax that Kadyrov fell for.

The threats that now threaten journalists and bloggers who write about his sham may prove the bitterness of the Chechen leader.

Kadyrov denies himself and threatens to imprison him

"I declare with full responsibility that the news that the Ukrainian Nazi Julia Pajewska, known under the pseudonym of Tajra, was exchanged for the son of my representative in Crimea and Sevastopol Murad Saidov - Adam Grycenka, do not correspond to reality" - quotes Kadyrov from the Russian state news agency RIA Novosti.

Even if the words of Kadyrov were to be considered true, the price that Ukraine and its president Volodymir Zelensky had to pay for the release of the Ukrainian volunteer medic Julia Pajewska, who was hated by the Russians, "Tajra", trumpeted by Russian propaganda about her imprisonment as an extraordinary success, remains unexplained.

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You are playing loose with facts, the fact of the matter is firstly there is no unpopularity to the Russian gvt plans for Ukraine much of that is played up in the West and there is a lot of turning this conflict into a democracy v dictatorship situation ignoring that the Russians only went in to stop the violence in the Donbass.
As for RT, that is a reputable site yes it is state sanctioned but that's how things are done in Russia, they don't have the crass commercialism of the west and oh yeah it was a mistake to ban it and Sputnik because it makes us as bad. We talk about free speech but than go and exercise censorship.
? ? ?
 
Russian propaganda there is Ukrainian propaganda as well, Ukraine's human rights chief was sacked from her job for exaggerating rape claims of Russian soldiers, heard this from RT was not a mention of it in the so called free western world news.

Well, it was mentioned widely, it was here even posted by me, and was discussion with one denialist here about it too.
Ludmila Denisova was not a Human Rights Chief in Ukraine but ombudsman. She was sacked not for exaggerating violence but for giving too much details on those (the prosecutions are still on for those), she was not sacked actually for that but as she was a part of Poroshenko's troupe in Zelensky's government. They were trying to get rid of her for some time. And yes, there was plenty about it everywhere, mostly fixing crooked Russian narration.

Than you have the PROC acting as a conduit for all sorts of anti Russian bias,

It is not anti Russian bias - this is reality mate. I am really happy that totally ignorant Western world started seeing what Eastern Europe is shouting for decades.
Unfortunately it must have been war so some (not all) realized how Russians fucked them over. and actually still do it xD Look how much excitement Abramovich brought to troglodytes :) So many people were getting leftovers from the mafia table, they started to believe that they are someone and that Russia way is the only way. Dammit. Greed and stupidity.

I read some of the posts and the amount of times I hear posters calling on NATO to intervene and lambasting Scholz, Macron and Draghi for entertaining talks with Moscow is ridiculous.

Macron is making a clown of himself for the local-French reasons. He won presidential elections (that would be a drama if Le Pen and her ultra-right wing fuckards would get a hand on French nuclear armory). He failed miserably in parliament elections. Elections over - French started doing something after being poked by everyone around. Draghi has Five Stars party he needs to deal with first and even today there was a resignation in Italian gov. You would not hear it in RT... Scholtz? Even his own party is bitching on him and ridiculous politics which failed on all fronts. Germany will never be a leader in Europe after this - note my words. They are not reliable. Well they still do a lot I have to say, but they can way better. Even in Scholtz party there is plenty of angry people on him Merkel and Schroeder - mafia is out in the light. The three of them went to Kiev to get sweet selfies for their facebook ;) Draghi came out from nowhere, most people in Europe learned he is in Italy ;)

Let's put this to bed the only way the war will be resolved in through dialogue, a rocket through Putin's window won't solve this and besides even if and this would never happen but if Putin was deposed in a coup what stops the next Russian despot to follow through with his predecessors plans in Ukraine?

Nothing, that is why myself and plenty of others want Russians to bleed and then make them kill themselves in a civil war most preferably, so then the leftovers can be fenced and let them live in their own ocrish zoo :) Russians will only learn when they got their teeth kicked in - proven by centuries of successful teeth breaking :) But you will not see that in RT either. Russia is a mafia state, they should be eliminated, I agree that killing Putin will change a shit, Putin is a puppet himself. This mafia style country is ruled by KGB and GRU...

I sympathise with the Ukrainians, they are fighting bravely but I really believe we can't get ahead of ourselves, no way will the Ukrainians be able to push the Russians out of those Russian speaking regions, Scholz, Macron and Draghi are right to keep dialogue open with Moscow.

Well I can see the change in your comments since the very beginning of the thread(s). The trio should not sabotage destroying Russia. Giving Russians a hand and tryin to peacefully lead Russia to civilization has resulted in Georgia, Ukraine, fuel and food crisis shall I list more? Those barbarians are not worth civilized world attention different than showing them their spot and ensuring they will not attack anyone AGAIN. Russia only in last 30 years as RF was/is involved in 14 wars FOURTEEN. You can now start whataboutism about Americans, but everyone would prefer to be occupied by American than liberated by Russians.
In XXc Russia was involved in 59 conflicts. Only in one case they were openly attacked (1941). All the rest they were attacking or joining attackers.
Seriously, it is like believing the alcoholic that they will not drink and handling the keys to the off license to keep an eye on it while going for holidays ;)

edit: and I am not even considered a radical ;)
 
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Well, it was mentioned widely, it was here even posted by me, and was discussion with one denialist here about it too.
Ludmila Denisova was not a Human Rights Chief in Ukraine but ombudsman. She was sacked not for exaggerating violence but for giving too much details on those (the prosecutions are still on for those), she was not sacked actually for that but as she was a part of Poroshenko's troupe in Zelensky's government. They were trying to get rid of her for some time. And yes, there was plenty about it everywhere, mostly fixing crooked Russian narration.



It is not anti Russian bias - this is reality mate. I am really happy that totally ignorant Western world started seeing what Eastern Europe is shouting for decades.
Unfortunately it must have been war so some (not all) realized how Russians fucked them over.



Macron is making a clown of himself for the local-French reasons. He won presidential elections (that would be a drama if Le Pen and her ultra-right wing fuckards would get a hand on French nuclear armory). He failed miserably in parliament elections. Elections over - French started doing something after being poked by everyone around. Draghi has Five Stars party he needs to deal with first and even today there was a resignation in Italian gov. You would not hear it in RT... Scholtz? Even his own party is bitching on him and ridiculous politics which failed on all fronts. Germany will never be a leader in Europe after this - note my words. They are not reliable. Well they still do a lot I have to say, but they can way better. Even in Scholtz party there is plenty of angry people on him Merkel and Schroeder - mafia is out in the light. The three of them went to Kiev to get sweet selfies for their facebook ;) Draghi came out from nowhere, most people in Europe learned he is in Italy ;)



Nothing, that is why myself and plenty of others want Russians to bleed and then make them kill themselves in a civil war most preferably, so then the leftovers can be fenced and let them live in their own ocrish zoo :) Russians will only learn when they got their teeth kicked in - proven by centuries of successful teeth breaking :) But you will not see that in RT either. Russia is a mafia state, they should be eliminated, I agree that killing
Putin will change a shit, Putin is a puppet himself. This mafia style country is ruled by KGB and GRU...



Well I can see the change in your comments since the very beginning of the thread(s). The trio should not sabotage destroying Russia. Giving Russians a hand and tryin to peacefully lead Russia to civilization has resulted in Georgia, Ukraine, fuel and food crisis shall I list more? Those barbarians are not worth civilized world attention different than showing them their spot and ensuring they will not attack anyone AGAIN. Russia only in last 30 years as RF was/is involved in 14 wars FOURTEEN. You can now start whataboutism about Americans, but everyone would prefer to be occupied by American than liberated by Russians.
In XXc Russia was involved in 59 conflicts. Only in one case they were openly attacked (1941). All the rest they were attacking or joining attackers.
Seriously, it is like believing the alcoholic that they will not drink and handling the keys to the off license to keep an eye on it while going for holidays ;)
Ombudsmen, human rights chief, same difference fact is she exaggerated the extent of Russian involvement in war crimes and got sacked for it.
As for Scholz, Macron and Draghi they all have electorates to speak up for and Europeans don't want the lights to go out which they will because whether you or the PROC like it Europeans do business with Russia just like they do business with China and Gulf states, a bit of realpolitik please.
As for Russia being a mafia state, you could say the same for a lot of countries, Russians have known hardship and the capitalist West exploited a weakened Russia during the 90's. Russia sees itself like a great power just like Iran, Turkey, China and Britain, they all have egos that need stroking, nothing unusual about Russian nationalism.
 
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