No Parking = No City

[Stacky]

1. But yesterday you were praising the council and the planners for all their good work but today they’re not doing their jobs?
You listed one ruin/redevelopment how much buildings are sitting idle?

2. I wouldn’t say policing has been lax, I’ve seen them being moved on, arrested for begging or for their own safety. The issue is the amount of them, the gaurds can’t store everyone in cells and there’s more crime/incidents the Gaurds have to respond to.

3.Take out your big chains such as Lifestyle, JD, Brown Thomas, Opera Lane, Penny’s and the various Suits and Dresses vendors, there’s a serious lack of quality stores and even with the chains their choice is very poor compared to the exact same store operating in Dublin. The reason is again convenience there’s nearly better bus services to Mahon and Wilton if living on the southside than there is to town with same shops there. Also the convenience of parking at these centres. Plenty of parking for families, people with accessible needs and most importantly safety cars are not travelling huge speeds through shopping centres.

From my opinion shopping wise town was 100% better 10 years ago.
Not all traders are happy how much family business have we lost being closed down or sold. How many traders have relocated.

1.Curates egg- great in parts but slow and unyielding in others like all big organisations.

2. If you are depending on Guards etc it is too late as the crime has probably bene committed. Guards can only do so much but social services have to step in as do the Council as placing a homeless shelter behind a top hotel on the quays adjacent to an out of date bus station is a very bad idea.

3.Dublin is the capital city and much higher footfall etc. Do we really want to be a gentrified boring copy of that? North Face and Dune have opened up on Pana.
All buses go through the city centre apart from orbital routes. Suburban shopping centres are great and safe for families with kids. Spent lots of time there when they were younger but now the teens want to be in the city for vibrancy and variety as well as the bus option freedom.
Family business close down all the time for a variety of reasons and not just economic. but new business open up all the time also.

 

[Stacky]

2. I dont accept that there are adequate public transport options to facilitate a blanket move away from car travel. Much less to remove almost all spaces withing a 20 min walk of town ( the bus connects plan is a disaster).

Sandwiches or sushi online is yet another straw man argument.

What you "accept" is irrelevant and traders do have loading bays where possible and access + times for bins etc.


Still no sign of any facts, stats and data for your car based future?

 

[TheOutdoorThreadmill]

EnnisY for one. Hes in Cork more than the rest of us.

One or two others have mentioned it.

I suggest you try it yourself before taking his word on anything, I did, several times with a buggy and it's not true.

 

[Hank Scorpio]

I suggest you try it yourself before taking his word on anything, I did, several times with a buggy and it's not true.

I have, it wasnt my experience at all.

Besides the point, Ive no issues with the pedestrianisation of Princes Street or Oliver Plunkett Street. Stacky brought it up as if I had.

I would like to hear from more traders there than Paul Montgomery or Clare Nash, to guage their experience.

Sandwiches or sushi online is yet another straw man argument.

What you "accept" is irrelevant and traders do have loading bays where possible and access + times for bins etc.
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Still no sign of any facts, stats and data for your car based future?

A graphic of bus routes and the train to Cobh and Midleton.

Amazeballs. ?

How are sandwich stalls and sushi businesses a 'straw man argument'. You have experienced traders in the English market saying stalls are closing and they cant attract new stallholders owing to parking. Dismissing it doesnt make it less of an issue.

The same goes for the removal of loading bays.



You managed one post where you put in a bit of thought. I imagine it must have been quite taxing for you.

Take the afternoon off champ.

 

[Stacky]

I have, it wasnt my experience at all.

Besides the point, Ive no issues with the pedestrianisation of Princes Street or Oliver Plunkett Street. Stacky brought it up as if I had.

I would like to hear from more traders there than Paul Montgomery or Clare Nash, to guage their experience.




A graphic of bus routes and the train to Cobh and Midleton.

Amazeballs. ?

How are sandwich stalls and sushi businesses a 'straw man argument'. You have experienced traders in the English market saying stalls are closing and they cant attract new stallholders owing to parking. Dismissing it doesnt make it less of an issue.

The same goes for the removal of loading bays.



You managed one post where you put in a bit of thought. I imagine it must have been quite taxing for you.

Take the afternoon off champ.

The English Market is currently advertising for tenants for 2 vacant stalls.

You never even heard of "Debenhams".

You think that Gamestop should still be open selling physical product long after their business has migrated online.

There are other traders out there that agree with you 100% but they just cannot even be found.

Someday soon you will be new new C.E.O. of Xtra-vision.

Hang in there Dan.

 

[Hank Scorpio]

The English Market is currently advertising for tenants for 2 vacant stalls.

You never even heard of "Debenhams".

You think that Gamestop should still be open selling physical product long after their business has migrated online.

Someday soon you will be new new C.E.O. of Xtra-vision.

Hang in there Dan.

Don't tell me what 'I think' m8. I only replied to you mentioning Gamestop. You seem obsessed with the place.

You called it 'Debemhams'. Your literacy issues are your problem.

Xtra-Vision? Your sad attempts at putdowns just make you sound like an awful twat.

As Ive said you have no interest in respectful debate, just churlish , repetitive, garbage.

I'd honestly rather go for a drink with Soundman than an obnoxious oaf like yourself.

 

[TheOutdoorThreadmill]

I have, it wasnt my experience at all.

Besides the point, Ive no issues with the pedestrianisation of Princes Street or Oliver Plunkett Street. Stacky brought it up as if I had.

I would like to hear from more traders there than Paul Montgomery or Clare Nash, to guage their experience.

Corine Ngandeu, owner of Cork Niche Fragrances on Princes Street, said that the fact the street was pedestrianised was one of the main reasons she decided to open up her perfume shop there in January.

 

[Hank Scorpio]

Corine Ngandeu, owner of Cork Niche Fragrances on Princes Street, said that the fact the street was pedestrianised was one of the main reasons she decided to open up her perfume shop there in January.

I see.

 

[Stacky]

I'd honestly rather go for a drink with Soundman than an obnoxious oaf like yourself.

My work here is done


Rattled to his very core and being.


No facts, data, stats or anyone in business who even remotely agrees with him can be produced.


C’est l’heure des vacances d’été au revoir!!!

 

[Hank Scorpio]

My work here is done


Rattled to his very core and being.


No facts, data, stats or anyone in business who even remotely agrees with him can be produced.


C’est l’heure des vacances d’été au revoir!!!

You are actually priceless m8.

A four hour stream of echo articles and repetition before declaring victory on the INTERNET.

You think you’re Anthony Bourdain because you've got a few Ryanair flights to La Rochelle. Lol.


Enjoy your lunch. You might even dine outside Nash19 sometime