Cork Roads Lagging Way Behind :(

[Stacky]

What proportion of tolling is there in say the Motorway between Dublin and Galway, Dublin and Kilkenny, Dublin and Waterford etc? Should the Pay-for-Motorway travel not be similar throughout the country rather than heaped onto users of some and not on others? Or is that being too parochial?

More self victimisation complex if anything.

Some were built by the State and others via Public-Private partnerships thus saving the tax payer lots of money in a pay-per-use model.

You do not have to drive on these tolled roads.

 

[Stacky]

Toll roads are very common. The following roads are some of those tolled:
- Limerick to Galway
- Dublin to Galway
- Waterford bypaas
- Limerick/Cork to Dublin
- Dublin to Belfast
- Dublin to Derry

This isn’t some Green agenda. Toll roads have been around for decades.

Hundreds of years ago if you had to go way back.

 

[ElderBerries]

More self victimisation complex if anything.

Some were built by the State and others via Public-Private partnerships thus saving the tax payer lots of money in a pay-per-use model.

You do not have to drive on these tolled roads.

Do you think it would be greener to avoid using the tolled roads and travelling by alternative roads instead?

If we as tax payers in the country are all subjected to the same tax rates should we not all generally be able to avail of what our taxes are being spent on in roughly equal measure? Or do you think those within the Pale are somehow more deserving?

 

[Stacky]

Do you think it would be greener to avoid using the tolled roads and travelling by alternative roads instead?

If we as tax payers in the country are all subjected to the same tax rates should we not all generally be able to avail of what our taxes are being spent on in roughly equal measure? Or do you think those within the Pale are somehow more deserving?

We do.

If you want it the public lighting, Fire Brigade, Ambulance will be there when you need it.

People within the Pale suffer 24/7/365 of all the higher costs of living in or in orbit of a big sprawling capital city with all the hassles of a big city but with very few of the advantages.

Motorways are safer, more efficient time wise and car engines use less fuel/battery power rather than idling behind a slow moving tractor outside Charleville in a huge line of traffic.

 

[ElderBerries]

We do.

If you want it the public lighting, Fire Brigade, Ambulance will be there when you need it.

People within the Pale suffer 24/7/365 of all the higher costs of living in or in orbit of a big sprawling capital city with all the hassles of a big city but with very few of the advantages.

Motorways are safer, more efficient time wise and car engines use less fuel/battery power rather than idling behind a slow moving tractor outside Charleville in a huge line of traffic.

What are "all the hassles of a big city but with very few of the advantages" that the Paleites "suffer" that is so monumentally different to other cities in this country which don't seem to have the same perks.

Homeless on the streets? Cork has them
Drug addicts shooting up openly? check
People being intimidated on the streets in broad-daylight? check
Expensive rents? check

 

[Stacky]

What are "all the hassles of a big city but with very few of the advantages" that the Paleites "suffer" that is so monumentally different to other cities in this country which don't seem to have the same perks.

Homeless on the streets? Cork has them
Drug addicts shooting up openly? check
People being intimidated on the streets in broad-daylight? check
Expensive rents? check

I can only assume that you have never been to Dublin.

I lived there for 4+ years:

Traffic.
Cost of living.
Luas and Dart which will often disappoint-Luas red line needs its own prison carriage and armed guards.
The sheer hassle of getting anywhere.
Visit a beach on a sunny day? Well 60,000 feral Dubs have the exact same idea.
Property prices.
Feral Dubs in most parts of the city.
An airport with poor access and the most visually disturbed place on earth.
Rents are insane.
Giant suburban poorly planned sprawl.

As for the "perks" you just get ripped off there too.

Cork being much smaller means that you can visit the coast in under 30 minutes with loads of options for leisure.

In Dublin you will be very lucky to even make it to the Red Cow roundabout in that time.

I have cousins and friends up there who just do not even visit the city centre as it is an embarrassing edgy capital city unfortunately.

 

[Crankycorner]

I work in Dublin one day a week. We don’t know how lucky we have it down here.

 

[Blue Jasmin]

Having protected cycle lanes running parallel to this white elephant of a motorway is one positive at least.

As electric bikes and escooters become more widely used people will have the option of traveling ever longer distances with them.

I'd have no problem going from Cork to Limerick via my escooter once the road opens.

 

[jank]

You can drive 120km from Tuam to Limerick on a toll-free motorway (with very sparse traffic) but you'll be rolled for driving 12km from Mallow to Buttevant (and the NRA technocrat will look you in the eye and tell you this form of tolling is 'cheaper).

Nice of you to leave out the toll for the Limerick Tunnel

 

[jank]

I work in Dublin one day a week. We don’t know how lucky we have it down here.

I too work in Dubland the odd time.
The city centre is a dump.