Cork Minor Hurling 2024

[leeside_rebel]

I know dads of two players who were on extended panel, one still there. Certainly neither would think Meyler would win any awards for communication but neither would be too critical ultimately.

Certainly he settled on about 20 players very early but interestingly 3 of the maybe top 5 all along have been dropped for some of the recent games. View would be that perhaps having a less settled first team might have better for all throughout.

They did botch cuts apparently, cutting a good few players (by email but flagged in advance I think) around easter and then seeming to pretend they never did cut them ehen they needed them for all ireland u16 competitions! They then did a big cut in late summer last year which included those already seemingly cut and a good few others. All done by email. Some good players cut who are doing well now in Celtic Challenge - but to be fair that's inevitable.

He promoted a good few 2008s (this years minors are 2007) which Fraggy didn't really do the previous year, and that made the late summer cut wider than expected. Again though, perhaps learning from Fraggys mistake.

Parents are always going to be disappointed when their kid is cut. Sometimes they just aren't seeing reality. Other times there can be truth in their grievances. Kids progress at different rates and a cut can just happen at the wrong time for their kid. Kids can be played in the wrong position (and one of the dad's I know does say there was little rotation of position from day one - half backs were half backs etc). Even age comes into it, the January birthday v the November or December birthday. It all probably gets amplified by the fact minor is u17 now. When the coaches are dealing with a panel of 60 or even 45 it's hard for them to drill down into such specific issues for each kid. They've got to put the group first.

Anyway, both dads wouldn't grumble much with the top 25 or so he picks (the odd one they disagree with but that's always the way). Nor do they think any cuts etc weren't made bona fide. Sometimes a coach rates you and sometimes he doesn't.

I myself saw them v Limerick and it's a decent team. Fingers crossed they can go all the way. Galway and Tipp now seen as the big competition.

Great points there. And I think the fact players develop at different stages is why it's a good reason Cork enter 4 regional sides in the Celtic Challenge and keep as many going as possible. Guaranteed there will be a few who are not on this year's minor panel who will be on u20 panel in couple of years if they stay positive and stick with it.

 

[TheOutdoorThreadmill]

Half time
Cork: 2-8(14)
Waterford: 0-7(7)
Adam Lee and Jack Hegarty with the goals

 

[morello]

Good first half, wing forwards impressive

 

[morello]

Mark o’brien with superb goal and point in last 5 mins… immediately after avoiding a definite red for an off the ball strike. Lucky boy. Serious hurler.

 

[TheOutdoorThreadmill]

Full time
Cork: 3-18(27)
Waterford: 0-12(12)

 

[CORK1990]

John Meyler seems to favour big lads lots of big fellas on that team good hurlers ..is Conor O Donoughue of the Barrs Jim s son ?

 

[omar]

I was critical of our backs after the Tipp game. A few changes and they look a better unit.

Lads seem to be improving game by game which is great. Waterford did look weak on the night but the young lads performed well and showed a touch of ruthlessness which is good.

MT Brosnan for an u16 looks a fine prospect to me. A real all rounder and team player.

Cork are indeed a big strong team. Looking forward to the next round. Great format for young lads to be fair.

 

[Twiceasnice97]

Tipperary had all 36 players on the pitch and in the team photo when they played Cork.The extended panel players sat behind the dug out and were treated as part of the group.I do agree that they need to grow up a bit but it is still a harsh way of dealing with 16/17 year olds m

My own opinion is usually it's close enough to the best team picked for most championship games.
Most managers are there for success and in some ways to boost their own reputation. To do that they need to win championships so they're almost always going to put the best team in the field, I don't think politics gets in the way anymore for most guys, if a lad isn't going to help them win he won't be getting the nod regardless of club, who he's related to, etc.
Usually the politics thing is thrown around by those who can't take not making it instead of accepting that mayb it's the correct call.

Also I would accept that Meyler would certainly be old school and probably very unlike what the modern generation are used to dealing with. I think if the majority have been involved with him for last couple years they were well aware of what they were getting before this campaign ever started.
Some younger coaches are then almost too far the other way. There's probably a middle ground some place between babying lads and being harsh that would be ideal.

If they get another win tomorrow evening the management won't feel the need to justify anything to anyone, not that I think Meyler would anyway regardless of the result.

Clare name the full panel in the program and bring them all.
Lets face it, Meyler is just a bit of an asshole who covers it with shite about having to toughen lads up.

He is loved in wolfe tones shannon for getting them over the line in a Munster intermediate championship.

He had no role with them other than managing Kilmoyley when shannon beat them in the munster semi

Meyler came in and said well done to the shannon lads but it didnt matter who won the semi final because newcestown were going to walk the final. Hes a bit of a tit and thick as fuck. Having said that , cork looked a very very slick outfit tonight up front

Wolfe Tones deliver Intermediate title in style

Wolfe Tones (Clare) 1-18 Newcestown (Cork) 2-13: John Meyler, according to James Carrig, walked into the Wolfe Tones dressing room after their Munster quarter-final defeat of Kilmoyley and informed the opposition that Cork champions Newcestown were more than a match for any team in the province.

www.irishexaminer.com

 

[morello]

First time seeing this bunch live. Impressive overall, maybe 2 or 3 lads short of real top quality.
Waterford played poorly, lot of mis-hit striking, dropped catches etc. looked very nervous, and they're very young so not sure how good a barometer they are, but apparently they had the beating of Tipp the last day.

The half forward line is excellent. 2 puc-out targets on the wings - tall and athletic and both well able to catch under pressure. The 12 Murphy from Barryroe is a real stand out player - prob 6'4'', left handed hurler, loads of pace. He actually got 4 points but the crowd and umpires conspired to rob him of one. O'Brien is serious also, immaculate first touch all night, pacy and accurate. Lost his head for a second and should have seen red for a really bad stroke, at a key time in the game.

Brosnan from the Glen was a handful, could have had more scores, his marker was taken off after 20 minutes or so. Lee was the go-to lad in the full forward line all night, played a rake of ball, very strong. Bit casual - again could have had even more considering the ball he was on.

Half back line was other line of note - 3 big athletic lads but very calm on the ball, worked their way out of loads of tricky situations with nice stickwork, handpasses and weren't afraid to be physical and a bit cynical when needed. The 7 Murphy from Mallow was just about the pick of those 3.

 

[shergar]

I see on gaa.ie that, in the Celtic Challenge, Cork North had a great away win against Dublin (their only team), Cork City hammered Down in Kildare, and Cork East and Cork West both lost (unsurprisingly) away to Kilkenny and Galway respectively (again, KK and Galways only teams - and not big losses either). All the Cok teams doing well it seems