Cork Hurlers - Part 2

I agree with the sentiment by the way, we have enough good players to be doing better than we are… and there are better alternatives to last weeks selection. We just don’t have any ‘best in their position in the country’ type of lads, Joyce maybe.

Out of interest, if you had to make a combined team from Cork and Clare what would it be? Based on individual player ability. Interesting to see how many from each team. Imo:
Collins
Hogan. Cahalane. SOD
Ryan. Joyce. Mcinerney
Malone. Coleman
Fitzgerald. Kelly. Barrett
McCarthy . SOD. Connolly

7 Cork / 8 Clare
We find it hard enough to come close to an agreement on a starting 15 for Cork 😂
 
I agree with the sentiment by the way, we have enough good players to be doing better than we are… and there are better alternatives to last weeks selection. We just don’t have any ‘best in their position in the country’ type of lads, Joyce maybe.

Out of interest, if you had to make a combined team from Cork and Clare what would it be? Based on individual player ability. Interesting to see how many from each team. Imo:
Collins
Hogan. Cahalane. SOD
Ryan. Joyce. Mcinerney
Malone. Coleman
Fitzgerald. Kelly. Barrett
McCarthy . SOD. Connolly

7 Cork / 8 Clare
You excluded Clare's Full Back Cleary, who is one of the best high fielders in the game, and included a man who I've never seen catch a high ball.
 
We don’t have the players I believe. The results very clearly show that.
It’s 19 years since Cork last won an All Ireland.
Since then many all Ireland’s have Kilkenny won? Eight I think
And they made about another 4 finals.
So, comparing Cork with Kilkenny nowadays is a bit of a joke really..
I hate saying this but a big part of our problem in Cork is we don’t know we have a problem.
I think we have the players but not the mentality right now.
Or to put it another way we have players whose confidence levels are possibly not where they should be.
They need to know that they are good enough, because they are.

I believe there are several reasons for that lack of confidence:
1. Over the years the + 30 yr old generation of players have been involved in teams where we didn't have a consistent high standard in the pool of players available.
Some damaging losses between 2013 and 2019 (e.g. Waterford SF 2017)
2. The DF, Coleman, ROF, Kingston generation blighted by injury just when they were approaching prime years- that has to impact confidence.
3. The Barrett Connolly* generation bringing huge confidence from being in a winning set-up but potentially struggling with maintaining that confidence.
Damaging losses to Limerick in AI Final and in RR 2022 won't have helped.
4. Implementation of systems and tactics that require supreme confidence when confidence is low.

*Connolly himself has a tonne of confidence, that's the mindset we need from all. They need to back themselves, they are plenty good enough.
 

Excellent synopsis of last week from Michael Vurney & Shane Stapleton (go to 43 mins), they're miles ahead of the rest. Stapleton (very anti-Cork usually) felt Cork were robbed interestingly. They don't pull the punches re the 3 lads in the forward line. 10 shots from the the trio in the first half - 9 wides and 1 point. It killed us.

I think our best side right now to expose Clare on Sunday doesn't have any of that trio. I think PR will pick 2 of them this evening. I'd say there is serious sway held by Harnedy and Hoggie in this set-up. What seem like obvious selections to all of us watching on become complicated in that environment. Lehane should have come off before Twomey; Hoggie should have come off before Harnedy.

The weakness for Clare is in the full back line. Cleary is just a wrestler. Hogan is excellent, but whether it's Leen or Hayes or Flanagan in the other corner it's an opportunity for Cork. Hogan did very well on Robbie in the league; Cleary will likely just try and grapple Connolly for as long as he can get away with it. We have really take advantage of that final match-up though - that's where 2 or 3 goals can come from.

Conlon is slowing down also so straight down the middle with Fitzgibbon / TOM is also an opportunity. We have to have our big lads on their wing forwards; probably R Downey on Fitzgerald and E Downey on Duggan. SOD on SOD. Millerick on Kelly, although Kelly will probably start at 11 and try and pull Joyce out of position.

So what's the right approach up front? I've been critical of him in the past but JOC has been looking really sharp, he's a confidence player and built for fast ground. He would be a curve ball that would cause huge problems for Clare. Darragh has to go to the half forward line - we will lose the physical battle in midfield otherwise, and he'd cause Conlon a headache in terms of how much Conlon could protect the full back line. [By right, Ben Cunningham should be starting for us at this stage - he's a top class forward and better than Twomey, Harnedy etc. in that half forward line no question - but that just ain't happening is it]

I'd go with

PC
SOD v SOD--------Cahalane v Rogers------Millerick v McCarthy
ED v Duggan-------Joyce v Kelly----------R Downey v Fitzgerald

Coleman v Morey----TOM v Malone

Dalton v McInerney-----Fitz v Conlon-------ROF v Ryan
JOC v Hogan----------Connolly v Cleary----Barrett v Flanagan

I expect the mgmt team will only make 2 changes vs last Sunday:
-> ED and Dalton in; Twomey and Lehane out
-> Darragh to 11; Coleman to 9
Nice post but I hope to god that we don’t start Hoggie. He doesn’t have the legs and it’s a necessity.
If we play TOC as a wing back we might as well play with 14. They will devour him. Great player and love his bite but I think you can only play him or Coleman in midfield. Not together.
Still so deflated since the debacle of a week ago, hoping for an improvement. Dalton is our best playmaker IMO he will get the ball into the inside line. Would like to see BH start alongside SB and AC. Bring Robbie off the bench again. The management need a huge week, they’ve been poor since coming in and their record backs that up.
 
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