Cork Hurlers - Part 2

[Bronxrebel]

Come championship Joyce will be at CB, Coleman will be wing back, Tommy O’Connell and Dara Fitz will be midfield.

I’d bet any amount of money if all players are fit this will be how they line out.

As they should.

 

[Bronxrebel]

I'm a major fan of both. Joyce has been great for us and your right, Joyce has our best center back since Curran. Coleman is arguably our most skillfill player and I would rather him on the ball than most others, but not wing back.

If P Ryan wants Coleman at wing back, thats his call. I already outlined my reasons clearly why I dont like him wing back, poor in the air/ not enough hooking and blocking IMO and its only IMO. Respectfully you hav'nt outlined why you want Coleman wing back. Its midfield/center forward for me and he has competition in these areas.

I can see Coleman somewhere else but the idea of moving Joyce is crazy to me. I like Coleman at #7 for a number of reasons. One, he’s excelled there before. Two, his presence there makes the opponent react to us rather than the other way around. That is lost on a lot of people it seems. Folks focus on how we match up with other teams. Coleman’s skills at #7 put the opponents under duress. They have to worry about how they deal with him coming up the field. Three, I believe he’s better at hooking and blocking than you do. I believe he’s clearly put on muscle to improve defending the high ball which he impressed on against Kilkenny. I believe he’s able to improve which considering his age should go without saying.

 

[Corkfan82]

Reported that he is out till May at least so I doubt we will see him on the panel. Similar shoulder operation that Connolly had

Thanks for the update.

 

[TheRightHandofRing]

I can see Coleman somewhere else but the idea of moving Joyce is crazy to me. I like Coleman at #7 for a number of reasons. One, he’s excelled there before. Two, his presence there makes the opponent react to us rather than the other way around. That is lost on a lot of people it seems. Folks focus on how we match up with other teams. Coleman’s skills at #7 put the opponents under duress. They have to worry about how they deal with him coming up the field. Three, I believe he’s better at hooking and blocking than you do. I believe he’s clearly put on muscle to improve defending the high ball which he impressed on against Kilkenny. I believe he’s able to improve which considering his age should go without saying.

That's a very good point. Before the tikki-taka era under Kingston he was the best head up hurler in the country able to score, run or pass from deep. If Coleman can be at his best at wing back he is a huge asset that offers something that no other Cork defender does.

 

[Corkfan82]

That's a very good point. Before the tikki-taka era under Kingston he was the best head up hurler in the country able to score, run or pass from deep. If Coleman can be at his best at wing back he is a huge asset that offers something that no other Cork defender does.

I love your optimism lads. Hope I'm proved completely wrong and Coleman has an al star year at wing back if selected.

However, I cannot shake the thought of Hegarty/Fitsgerald/Mullen being completely dominate over him in the air and physical stakes.

I'll stop banging on about it now. It will be fascinating to watch.

 

[dunmore]

And thank God for that.

Ok lads are entitled to give an opinion. But some on here are the self appointed owners of every thread they become involved with. If they don't agree with someone elses opinion they resort to sarcasm, snide remarks and name calling.

I'm all for a bit of banter but no need for that nosense.

I wonder who you are referring to ?

 

[John123]

Mark coleman and Barrett I don’t think are good midfield options, they played there against Clare in 2022 and we got cleaned. Jack O Connor had a great game no denying that. But he was given space to run onto balls. He wouldn’t get that space against Tipp Clare and Limerick. Rob Downey in the forwards might be worth a look as he is too slow for full back line and I think the half back line is set now with Mellerick Joyce and Coleman.

 

[red&blue]

Mark coleman and Barrett I don’t think are good midfield options, they played there against Clare in 2022 and we got cleaned. Jack O Connor had a great game no denying that. But he was given space to run onto balls. He wouldn’t get that space against Tipp Clare and Limerick. Rob Downey in the forwards might be worth a look as he is too slow for full back line and I think the half back line is set now with Mellerick Joyce and Coleman.

The half back line, Joyce aside ?, is far from set in stone and I’d be pretty confident come championship we will see Rob in there

 

[The Highway Man]

Downey will be marking Hegarty come championship.

 

[Redrock]

Training camp for hurlers in Kerry next weekend I hear, warm weather training just like footballers i suppose??. Only hurlers bring their own blankets.hope they all behave and stay away from Ballyseedy ?