Cork Hurlers - Part 2

[hurley68]

It is a more generic/general comment than you would normally make. Who would you consider from that Tipp match to be unsuitable for this year's squad ?

Well,for starters...our full back line were very poor

 

[Crankycorner]

Well,for starters...our full back line were very poor

If I can remember too we were wiped out in the middle 3rd over a spell of 15-20 minutes. Our subs changed the game but Tipp left it behind them on the night.

 

[North Cork]

I am looking at Tipp match,from last year on Tg4 If we haven't a lot of new men to come onto this year's team we are going no place.

Pat Ryan, in an interview a couple of months ago, spoke about the steep learning curve between management of an under 20m panel and management of a senior hurling panel. He said that he felt Cork were prepared for the Waterford and Limerick games but not the Tipperary game in particular or against Clare.

I hope we will see a different Cork this season, I hope the preparation will be better, I hope the team selection will be more focused and of course game management will be improved.

There is a reason so few counties win anything in the first year of a new managerial group.

The same players that drew with with Tipp although not playing terribly well also beat Waterford were beaten by a late late point in Ennis and performed well against Limerick.

Tbh, I don't honestly think we are that far off. But, you are right the inclusion of a new player or two is good for competition and keeping standards up.

 

[hurley68]

Pat Ryan, in an interview a couple of months ago, spoke about the steep learning curve between management of an under 20m panel and management of a senior hurling panel. He said that he felt Cork were prepared for the Waterford and Limerick games but not the Tipperary game in particular or against Clare.

I hope we will see a different Cork this season, I hope the preparation will be better, I hope the team selection will be more focused and of course game management will be improved.

There is a reason so few counties win anything in the first year of a new managerial group.

The same players that drew with with Tipp although not playing terribly well also beat Waterford were beaten by a late late point in Ennis and performed well against Limerick.

Tbh, I don't honestly think we are that far off. But, you are right the inclusion of a new player or two is good for competition and keeping standards up.

We need to defend better....for O Connor goal we had 5 men near him and he walked through
Is there any such thing now of "standing up" your man?
We just run along beside him and try to flick ball away
Oh for a John Horgan,Rip

 

[North Cork]

We need to defend better....for O Connor goal we had 5 men near him and he walked through
Is there any such thing now of "standing up" your man?
We just run along beside him and try to flick ball away
Oh for a John Horgan,Rip

I do agree that the full back line in particular included proper defenders. Players who have no interest in anything else other than defending their patch.
Over recent years we have conceded far too many scores because defenders have failed to do their most basic task.... defend.
Passes intercepted in dangerous areas, players losing possession because they dwell on the ball too long, players just defending tight enough on their man.
All of this has to improve.

 

[The Highway Man]

Lads there has not been anyone dropped off the panel. Chance after chance after chance. . That really tells us all we need to know. Same players same issues and don't give me " They Just need to up their work ratev bullshit" a fucking Junior team does that.

 

[Tippy tappy no more]

Lads there has not been anyone dropped off the panel. Chance after chance after chance. . That really tells us all we need to know. Same players same issues and don't give me " They Just need to up their work ratev bullshit" a fucking Junior team does that.

Do you not think the best hurlers in the county are on the panel and that is why they are not dropped. If they are beaten by a better team or player doesn't mean they should be dropped for a lesser player. Who on the panel would you drop and more importantly who would replace them.

 

[Come off the stage]

There's 42 on the panel now. If you read through the full list of players it's not as simple as some suggest to drop 6 before the league. Then have 10 lads not making matchday squads. Granted I accept the opinion there is some lads who's time has run it's course but management must think they've something to offer if they haven't dropped them The newcomers to the full squad really are Cathal McCarthy Daniel Harrington Eoin Carey Michael Mullins Ben Cunningham Brian Saunderson I'm not sure am I missing anyone else

 

[The Highway Man]

Do you not think the best hurlers in the county are on the panel and that is why they are not dropped. If they are beaten by a better team or player doesn't mean they should be dropped for a lesser player. Who on the panel would you drop and more importantly who would replace them.

won't give names, what is the point in that, we have had guys there 10 plus years , not including Hoggy, we have fellas who make the same mistakes , the same runs, etc etc, there is a group who have had zero improvement in 5 years.

 

[Instabroke]

won't give names, what is the point in that, we have had guys there 10 plus years , not including Hoggy, we have fellas who make the same mistakes , the same runs, etc etc, there is a group who have had zero improvement in 5 years.

Hopefully the manager who is only there one year might be after spotting a few things.