Cork Footballers

[Corkonian1]

Cork simply have to defeat Clare away this year, too often this Cork team has made Clare look a good side, they have to stop the rot now!

 

[St fachtna]

Kerry have the handiest group of all

 

[St fachtna]

At a guess, The Barrs, Nemo , Haven and Clon ??

They would be my 4 , Ballincollig if they have everyone on board could be dangerous

 

[poulgorm]

Kerry have the handiest group of all

In the long term, that won't do them any favours.

 

[dahayeser]

Dublin are laughing
A Mickey Mouse provincial set up
A dead rubber against Roscommon in Croker
A dead Rubber against Cavan away
And back to Croker

I'd say the Dubs must be crying rather than laughing. Must be bored of their t1ts hammering teams in an empty Croke Park now facing 3 completely meaningless games against inferior opposition, and they need to lose all of to be knocked out. Their fan base has fallen off a cliff, they can't have any grá for this either.

The game really needed a Dublin, Mayo, Derry, Cork group. Of course with the mad scenario of 3 to qualify even that would be fairly meaningless anyway, just a question of could Cork upset Mayo again for third.

 

[bluesball]

The winners of Ulster will be playing 2 weeks in a row against Tyrone and then cork.

 

[Rebel CNC]

Dublin are laughing
A Mickey Mouse provincial set up
A dead rubber against Roscommon in Croker
A dead Rubber against Cavan away
And back to Croker

And probably all shown live on RTE!!!

 

[peopleluas]

mad scenario of 3 to qualify

It's not mad. You might have a better idea, but to call it "mad" is inaccurate when there has been clear logical thought put into it. With the current arrangement, there's a reward for every position in the group:

1st gets a quarter final against a team which is mentally and physically exhausted.
2nd gets a home preliminary quarter final
3rd is at least still in it - they get a preliminary quarter final, but it's away
4th is gone.

I don't see the problem (or at least not a madness) with having a competition where every team gets at least 3 matches, the outcome of which determines the above.

The situation with Dublin is an entirely different problem. Long term, given urbanization but not only that, if we want to achieve the following:

1. a properly competitive national GAA football competition amongst representative teams (i.e. teams of the best players in a broad geographical area of many clubs), and
2. football successful at ground level everywhere,

then those geographical areas can't be based on county-bounds set up by the Anglo-Normans or whoever. Otherwise you get far too uncompetitive a situation - the most extreme example being Dublin, who will otherwise win most All-Irelands until there's a profound failure of football in Dublin (and what GAA person wants that really).

 

[bluesball]

If its mad for football its just as bad in hurling

 

[TheOutdoorThreadmill]

It's not mad. You might have a better idea, but to call it "mad" is inaccurate when there has been clear logical thought put into it. With the current arrangement, there's a reward for every position in the group:

1st gets a quarter final against a team which is mentally and physically exhausted.
2nd gets a home preliminary quarter final
3rd is at least still in it - they get a preliminary quarter final, but it's away
4th is gone.

I don't see the problem (or at least not a madness) with having a competition where every team gets at least 3 matches, the outcome of which determines the above.

The situation with Dublin is an entirely different problem. Long term, given urbanization but not only that, if we want to achieve the following:

1. a properly competitive national GAA football competition amongst representative teams (i.e. teams of the best players in a broad geographical area of many clubs), and
2. football successful at ground level everywhere,

then those geographical areas can't be based on county-bounds set up by the Anglo-Normans or whoever. Otherwise you get far too uncompetitive a situation - the most extreme example being Dublin, who will otherwise win most All-Irelands until there's a profound failure of football in Dublin (and what GAA person wants that really).

It's a mad scenario in a compressed playing season, if it was more spread out, it would be fine.