Cork Footballers

[Churchtown Gael]

His kicking tee itself is a huge issue. It's the yellow bristly one that does go further tbf, but encourages long loopy kickouts. The lower cone type tees that 95% of keepers use days are much more effective for accuracy and driven type kicks. Any keeper that has ever used both would spot the difference in seconds, it's baffling that Martin or a goalkeeping coach (if we have one?) haven't been able to sort that out

I would agree with this about his kicking tee, it looks like he is using the puntee that was developed by Shane Curran back in 2004/2005. This tee was developed to increase kicking distance from kickouts. That was developed nearly 20 years ago, we can all clearly see that kickout strategies have changed dramatically in the last 20 years so how an intercounty keeper can be happy useing this tee is baffling.

Anybody know if Martin uses the same tee or same kickout strategy with Nemo, surley they go short like most other teams at this stage. His inability to kick the ball off the ground without a tee is strange as most keepers should be more comfortable kicking short without a tee.

Is Paddy O'Shea still involved as goalkeeping coach? he was brought in by Ricken but dont know if Cleary has kept him on or brought somebody else in. Who are the 3/4 other keepers that are involved this year with the squad surely one of them has a better kickout than Martin. Even if Martin is a better shot stopper it is more importnant now to have a better kicker in goals than a shot stopper.

 

[bluesball]

Cork1990 is spot on i have plenty of time for McSweeney but im finding it hard to argue that he should be on the team

 

[Fox Leary]

Is Paddy O'Shea still involved as goalkeeping coach? he was brought in by Ricken but dont know if Cleary has kept him on or brought somebody else in.

I think I saw POS at a training session in Clon not so long ago so he could still be involved, I’m open to correction though as I’m not sure it was him.

Either way he’s not earning his crust as MM’s kickouts are no better now than they were 5 years ago. Former Clon goalkeeper Eamonn Harte (another who was mysteriously never looked at by Cork) has been instrumental in the development of Mark White. Maybe he is someone Cleary should approach as he is obviously onto something given Whites monster kick outs. Or even Alan Quirke. We have to change something as we appear to have the only goalkeeper in the country who can’t kick the ball accurately longer than 50 yards.

 

[rebel boy]

Best team if everyone was fit ....
Michael Martin
Maurice Shanley Daniel O Mahony Tommy Walsh
Luke Fahy Brian O Driscoll Mattie Taylor
Colm O Callaghan Ian Maguire
Ruairi Deane Sean Powter Stephen Sherlock
Cathail O Mahony Brian Hurley Chris Og Jones...

subs, Chris Kelley
Kevin O Donovan, Sean Meehan, Rory Maguire, Tadgh Corkery, Liam O Donovan, Darragh Cashman, Paul Ring, Kevin Flahive ,
Paul Walsh, Killian O Hanlon, Brian Hartnett, Daniel O Connell, Jack Lawton, Shane Merritt,
Fionn Herlihy, Mark Cronin, Blake Murphy, Daniel Dineen, David Buckley, Damien Gore, Eoghan McSweeney, Conor Corbett,

There is still a lot of very good players there i dont care what anyone says .....over to management to get the playing .

Agreed CORK1990.
There's enough players on that squad to make a decent team once you get variety into a kick out strategy and kickers into the middle third.

To make that happen, i agree with some posters that big calls need to be made, one being dropping Ian Maguire who is probably in the top 3 club players in Cork, however at inter county is one dimensional, bringing him on for last 20 mins to finish games is a serious option to hurt teams in the final quarter.

I would put Tommy Walsh at centre back, he is going to be there for the future so put him in now. I would have Killian O Hanlon at midfield.
Powter at corner back, easy to utilize him as a plus one then as very few teams play 3 inside. Maguire or Fahy at wing back.
Corbett at 11, think Corbett facing the goal would suit him better, flanked by McSweeney and Deane, make the subs at 10 and 12 much quicker than they currently are, 40-45 mins bring in replacements.

Cork are not a big physical team however have legs, time to utilize that and get kickers into the team and play a fast brand of football and use the bench when lads start tiring. Too slow at present to make a call. Lots of good work done by management this year compared to last few years but quicker calls needed.

Hurley starts if fit, no question with Chris Og Jones inside and Sherlock outside them.
Is Hurley going to be fit in 4/5 weeks?? O Mahony not likely until later in championship, which seems a million miles away at present.

 

[TravisBickle]

I am sure I will be shouted down here and accused of bias but I think a full strength Clon side with no injuries would beat this current Cork outfit (minus the Clon players obviously).

Can’t see the Cork side scoring from play at all really.

 

[rebel without a caus]

I am sure I will be shouted down here and accused of bias but I think a full strength Clon side with no injuries would beat this current Cork outfit (minus the Clon players obviously).

Can’t see the Cork side scoring from play at all really.

Hahaha ha...not
You are now on ignore.
Would urge others to do same and stop giving this clown oxygen.

 

[Fox Leary]

Hahaha ha...not
You are now on ignore.
Would urge others to do same and stop giving this clown oxygen.

To be fair to Trav, I wouldn’t back this Cork team to win the county. I could honestly see the other 3 big four teams beating them. Granted Cork have better players on paper than Clon, Barrs, Nemo and Haven but as a unit they’re appalling, no game plan, no team spirit. I genuinely wouldn’t put a fiver on them winning the PSFC.

 

[Minstrel]

I am sure I will be shouted down here and accused of bias but I think a full strength Clon side with no injuries would beat this current Cork outfit (minus the Clon players obviously).

Can’t see the Cork side scoring from play at all really.

Not only that but I fancy Clon to win the World Cup. And the Grand National.

 

[DeludedGoat]

I think I saw POS at a training session in Clon not so long ago so he could still be involved, I’m open to correction though as I’m not sure it was him.

Either way he’s not earning his crust as MM’s kickouts are no better now than they were 5 years ago. Former Clon goalkeeper Eamonn Harte (another who was mysteriously never looked at by Cork) has been instrumental in the development of Mark White. Maybe he is someone Cleary should approach as he is obviously onto something given Whites monster kick outs. Or even Alan Quirke. We have to change something as we appear to have the only goalkeeper in the country who can’t kick the ball accurately longer than 50 yards.

Are there any other options in the county better than Martin and Kelly??

White is the obvious number 1 but not interested.

Foley was impressive with UCC in the sigerson. Shanahan from Carbery Rangers was very impressive last year from what I saw. O’Leary from Douglas impressed me too before but hasn’t been able to displace Boyle since so not sure what the story is there. Price with O’Donovan Rossa also impressed me but possibly passed it now?

Are there any outfielders worth looking at similar to Kerry have with Ryan?

I was talking to a buddy of mine who said a Charlie Grainger from Ballinhassig was one of the best young keepers he has seen underage but I know absolutely nothing about him or anything so could be pissing in to the wind with that statement.

 

[TravisBickle]

Hahaha ha...not
You are now on ignore.
Would urge others to do same and stop giving this clown oxygen.

I would certainly give the upper hand to Clons kick out strategy and defence.

That said, Clon have no one up front to rival Hurley.