Cork Footballers

1.Were Cork seriously going with Walsh's Galway 2018 kickout plan of just lumping it long to a wing and trying to win the break? I doubt you'd win an Intermediate club title with that strategy.

I was there, and from what I could see they were lumping it long to a wing and trying to win it clean or win the break. There was probably more to it than that, but I didn't notice it. I recall it being the same in the league matches I attended. It was working in the first half. Once Clare got on top of it in the second half (in no small part as a result of the giant they brought on impeding Cork contesting), it gave Clare the added go-for-it in a knockout game for them - i.e. to take more shots at the posts, knowing they had a good chance of getting possession back from the KO.

It clearly is not the only kickout tactic in Cork's playbook, as you can see other runs being made at KO-time. For whatever reason, the alternative tactics are not being put into practice - but just telling you in case you think they have only one tactic in mind.

Certainly, it remains an opportunity for significant improvement.
 
One would hope the Clon lads haven’t been turned off the Cork set up for life.

As long as there's a club (any club) mentality of "Cork County Board are against picking our players", then we're not going to have the best spirit in the camp. Lord knows we've a limited enough number of top quality footballers to pick from, do we really want to foster a corrosive attitude too? 😞
 
Just a few comments on what i saw last Sunday,
1. Collins beat Cleary hands down on Sunday
2.Kick out strategy a joke blame Cleary but the keeper must take a lot of the game. O hanlon was on win about 20 minutes to go but not once did a kick out go his way.
3.Pewter marked out of the game and we did nothing about it.
Cleary has been shown up, I was all for him getting the job 10 years ago but his time seems to have come and gone.

We need a hungry young manager with new ideas to mould these young players. It would require balls from the County board who will probably just replace cleary with Dwyer
 
I don't think this needs to be an enormous setback for Cork if they keep the head but it's a tough one to get back into training after I'd imagine.
Exactly. Keep the head. We're out of the Munster Championship, but we're almost certainly in the All-Ireland (Sam) competition and it's all to be played for, with things to work on.
 
No different to the hurlers then.
Much different. In my lifetime I remember 3 Cork All Ireland Hurling winning teams. I remember 1 football All Ireland.

As low as the hurlers fell from 2009-2016 they were never once relegated from Division 1 and even reached an All Ireland Final with a very average team in 2013. Would have won it too were it not for the referee playing for the draw. Our footballers fell off a cliff from 2016-2020. And even before that after Counihan left our standards dropped massively. No provincial title in 11 years. And no hope of one any time soon either.
 
What I’m saying is that any management team worth their salt could use this period for a real reset and review, personally don’t believe it will happen and we will end up in the tailteann cup getting beaten in a quarter final in some shit hole like portlaoise or mullingar on a Saturday evening by some random midlands team
For example sorting the kickout means dropping the current keeper and that won’t happen

Is he incapable of making a short accurate kick to one of the fullback line with a pre-determined signal?
Surely over the next 6 weeks that can be practiced and brought to a sufficient level that it can be trusted in championship?
 
Is he incapable of making a short accurate kick to one of the fullback line with a pre-determined signal?
Surely over the next 6 weeks that can be practiced and brought to a sufficient level that it can be trusted in championship?
I don’t know that he is tbh, I have rarely seen him clip a 30 yard ball sideways to a. Corner back and he seems to need the tee for every kick whereas other keepers don’t for short ones, perhaps it’s a confidence thing but his long kickouts are too high and not drilled like other keepers either and I’m not sure this can be trained in 6 weeks, in fairness he is an excellent shot stopper and very calm which is important but the kickouts are not the standard required for this level and put savage pressure on the middle to win them each time
 
Best team if everyone was fit ....
Michael Martin
Maurice Shanley Daniel O Mahony Tommy Walsh
Luke Fahy Brian O Driscoll Mattie Taylor
Colm O Callaghan Ian Maguire
Ruairi Deane Sean Powter Stephen Sherlock
Cathail O Mahony Brian Hurley Chris Og Jones...

subs, Chris Kelley
Kevin O Donovan, Sean Meehan, Rory Maguire, Tadgh Corkery, Liam O Donovan, Darragh Cashman, Paul Ring, Kevin Flahive ,
Paul Walsh, Killian O Hanlon, Brian Hartnett, Daniel O Connell, Jack Lawton, Shane Merritt,
Fionn Herlihy, Mark Cronin, Blake Murphy, Daniel Dineen, David Buckley, Damien Gore, Eoghan McSweeney, Conor Corbett,

There is still a lot of very good players there i dont care what anyone says .....over to management to get the playing .
 
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