cork airport to go (temporarily) BANG!

New York back?
DAA has asked Aer Lingus to weigh Cork-New York flights using new jets designed to cut long-haul travel costs, according to the airports’ company chief executive, Kenny Jacobs.

Speaking after confirming that Dublin and Cork airports them handled 37.7 million passengers in total last year, Mr Jacobs said the airport operator hoped Aer Lingus would base one of its new Airbus jets, capable of flying long and shorter distances, at the Republic’s second biggest airport.

This would open the door to transatlantic flights from there, including to New York. Mr Jacobs said that DAA had raised this with Aer Lingus, but the airline told the company it had first to receive the new aircraft before deciding on where to operate them.

The Airbus A321 extra long range (XLR) jets that Aer Lingus is due to receive this year are built to cut the cost of long-haul flying. The carrier intends using them to boost its transatlantic business, a key source of revenues and profits.



DAA aims to increase numbers at Cork Airport from more than three million last year to five million. “Cork is the fastest growing airport in the country,” Mr Jacobs noted.

As predicted, Dublin Airport last year breached the controversial 32 million passenger limit imposed on it by planners in 2007.

DAA expects a European court will deal with critical legal issues raised by the cap early next year. The Irish High Court referred questions raised by airlines in a challenge to the cap to Europe.


I think this is lip service, Aer Dumplin have taken delivery of 2 of those A321 XLR's.
As to whether it is technically possible for them to take off from that main runway at Cork, without weight limits etc is an unknown.

The 737 Max can and has done it with Norwegian, but Aer Dumplin do not have these in their fleet.
 
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They do yeahhhhhhhhhh

Still less than 2008 number before effects of crash kicked in. Dublin got back to 2008 level in 2015.

Mind you, has it's advantages. Stroll through the place compared to the cattle market that is Dumplin.

Few more routes would be great but not sure if capable of coping with 5 million mentioned in report above without severely and negatively impacting on the passenger experience.
Bar would need immediate serious expansion to cope with the "be rude not to" crowd putting their pre-dawn pints on insta or whatever!!

Already packed as it is, if a flight to London or Manchester and say Lanza are leaving within an hour of one another!!
 
DAA has asked Aer Lingus to weigh Cork-New York flights using new jets designed to cut long-haul travel costs, according to the airports’ company chief executive, Kenny Jacobs.

Speaking after confirming that Dublin and Cork airports them handled 37.7 million passengers in total last year, Mr Jacobs said the airport operator hoped Aer Lingus would base one of its new Airbus jets, capable of flying long and shorter distances, at the Republic’s second biggest airport.

This would open the door to transatlantic flights from there, including to New York. Mr Jacobs said that DAA had raised this with Aer Lingus, but the airline told the company it had first to receive the new aircraft before deciding on where to operate them.

The Airbus A321 extra long range (XLR) jets that Aer Lingus is due to receive this year are built to cut the cost of long-haul flying. The carrier intends using them to boost its transatlantic business, a key source of revenues and profits.



DAA aims to increase numbers at Cork Airport from more than three million last year to five million. “Cork is the fastest growing airport in the country,” Mr Jacobs noted.

As predicted, Dublin Airport last year breached the controversial 32 million passenger limit imposed on it by planners in 2007.

DAA expects a European court will deal with critical legal issues raised by the cap early next year. The Irish High Court referred questions raised by airlines in a challenge to the cap to Europe.


I think this is lip service, Aer Dumplin have taken delivery of 2 of those A321 XLR's.
As to whether it is technically possible for them to take off from that main runway at Cork, without weight limits etc is an unknown.

The 737 Max can and has done it with Norwegian, but Aer Dumplin do not have these in their fleet.
This won’t make me very popular but do we honestly have the demand for regular transatlantic flights from Cork? For flights to be commercially viable we’d need at least as many people wanting to travel from New York to Cork as want to travel from Cork to New York. I’d much rather the airport expand its network of European destinations to be honest. Places like Vienna, Berlin, Krakow would be better in my opinion.
 
This won’t make me very popular but do we honestly have the demand for regular transatlantic flights from Cork? For flights to be commercially viable we’d need at least as many people wanting to travel from New York to Cork as want to travel from Cork to New York. I’d much rather the airport expand its network of European destinations to be honest. Places like Vienna, Berlin, Krakow would be better in my opinion.
Whilst I can't see Aer Dumplin ever doing it, I do think there is an untapped demand for an East Coast US service.
Just consider, Norwegian used to fill planes to some back water airports over there.

I agree with you about the European services, again Aer Dumplin do not care about anything outside of Dumplin.

Just to give you an idea, they had 3 of their A 320's based here through this winter, the talk now is, they are going back to 2 only next winter.

So any further passenger growth at Cork will not at all be done by Aer Dumplin
 
Whilst I can't see Aer Dumplin ever doing it, I do think there is an untapped demand for an East Coast US service.
Just consider, Norwegian used to fill planes to some back water airports over there.

I agree with you about the European services, again Aer Dumplin do not care about anything outside of Dumplin.

Just to give you an idea, they had 3 of their A 320's based here through this winter, the talk now is, they are going back to 2 only next winter.

So any further passenger growth at Cork will not at all be done by Aer Dumplin
Fair point about Norwegian. But in terms of scale for these international airlines Cork is absolutely tiny. Their cost of doing business is much lower by routing all their flights through Dublin and Shannon. I’d love if we got them of course but I just can’t see it being viable. Norwegian didn’t even last 18 months.
 
Fair point about Norwegian. But in terms of scale for these international airlines Cork is absolutely tiny. Their cost of doing business is much lower by routing all their flights through Dublin and Shannon. I’d love if we got them of course but I just can’t see it being viable. Norwegian didn’t even last 18 months.
Ah yes but Norwegian grew too big and too fast, they went bang and that was not because of that Cork service, I imagine they were making coin on it.
All Shannon has going for it is the long runway and the fact they have pre clearance for US flights, other than that it is insignificant.
There are I would imagine passenger information available as to where the passenger originated and that is I am sure available to the airlines so demand can be calculated from that info.

Above in Dumplin, when it gets busy planes are landing and waiting for other planes to finish at stands so that they can pull up and leave their passengers off / on etc.
 
Bottom line is if transatlantic flights are viable out of Shannon, then they would be out of Cork. Cork has more routes than Shannon to the UK and Europe and even without long haul flights have had higher annual passenger numbers for about 20 years now. It stands to reason that a flight to New York and Boston out of Cork would do well.

There is a debate about whether or not these new Aer Lingus planes could do it out of Cork without significant load restrictions. Aer Lingus are always going to say they can't do it over the runway anyway, because they have no interest in Cork. Heathrow will be there only non sun flight out of Cork, once the Amsterdam flight is gone soon.

There's no reason the DAA shouldn't push for Transatlantic flights in Cork, but I'd be more worried about European connections. It's possible that next winter KLM to Amsterdam will be the only non sun European route. Unless Ryanair pop up with something.
 
Bottom line is if transatlantic flights are viable out of Shannon, then they would be out of Cork. Cork has more routes than Shannon to the UK and Europe and even without long haul flights have had higher annual passenger numbers for about 20 years now. It stands to reason that a flight to New York and Boston out of Cork would do well.

There is a debate about whether or not these new Aer Lingus planes could do it out of Cork without significant load restrictions. Aer Lingus are always going to say they can't do it over the runway anyway, because they have no interest in Cork. Heathrow will be there only non sun flight out of Cork, once the Amsterdam flight is gone soon.

There's no reason the DAA shouldn't push for Transatlantic flights in Cork, but I'd be more worried about European connections. It's possible that next winter KLM to Amsterdam will be the only non sun European route. Unless Ryanair pop up with something.
The problem with that is transatlantic flights from Cork would be in direct competition with already established flights from Shannon. Shannon has pre-clearance. And while Shannon has lower passenger numbers than Cork it has one ace up its sleeve. It has the longest runway in the Country. 777s and A330s cannot take off or land in Cork.
 
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