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Brog/Qube/Coco's being sold

comet said:
I didn't say that but we have swung way too far in the opposite direction, what good is money anyway if everything has gone up so much in price. How does the saying go, we know "the price of everything and the value of nothing". There was a thread on here recently about what other good places are there on a Friday night apart from the Brog and there weren't very many options put forward. I would be very sad to see it go, maybe you have an eye on one of the new apartments ;-)

Well that the price we pay for living in a free market economy where we have to take the good with the bad - maybe I value Dennehy's,The Long Valley,Tom Barrys,Sin E and The Hi-B more than the Brog but thats just my opinion.
There's enough fake bullshit pubs without personality out there which are popular for 6 months until the next one comes along. I doubt that it will be apartments as it is zoned for Retail/Commercial use which is worth more to a developer.No interest in buying a shoe box in the city :-)
 
Well if the complex ceases to be a licence premises we'll know where the licences went

The capital gains as Leeside loses 50pc of its pubs

THE long-running rivalry between Dublin and Cork took a new twist yesterday when it emerged that the capital is taking pubs from the southern city.

Dublin's booming hotel, pub and off-licence sector has been achieved by a haemhorraging of drink licences out of other areas, particularly in Cork.

The law whereby one pub licence must be "extinguished" before another pub or hotel bar can be opened has led to a situation where the number of pubs in Cork city has dropped by over 50pc in the past 20 years.

Cork city currently has an estimated 250 pubs - down from around 400 in the mid-1980s. The decline in pub numbers is even more stark in Cork county, where an estimated 1,000 pubs now remain - down from between 1,800 and 2,000 pubs just 20 years ago.

Rural parts of Waterford, Tipperary and Limerick have also been affected as Dublin's pub boom continues.

Con Dennehy, former chief of the Vintners' Federation of Ireland in Cork, said that while pub numbers have declined in all parts of Ireland, Leeside has been particularly badly hit.

"It really has been the end of an era here in Cork. Parts of the city that would historically have had a dozen or so pubs now have possibly one or two left. Some areas have none at all."

The closure of pubs - and the transfer of their licences to hotels, off-licences and pubs in Dublin - has been particularly acute over the past decade.

"I suppose it was a simple question of economics - Dublin was offering great money for licences and it was increasingly difficult for small family pubs to maintain profitable operations in Cork city centre," Mr Dennehy said.

The Dennehy family pub, established on Cork's Coal Quay in 1956, once competed alongside 12 other premises, but by the mid-1990s, Coal Quay was left with just Dennehy's, though two new premises have since opened.

Some parts of the city now have no pubs. The famous Lavitt's Quay district, adjacent to Cork Opera House and various restaurants, once boasted five successful premises. Now it has just one.

Even on famous "drinking" streets, such as Shandon Street and Barrack Street, pressure on pub numbers has inexorably led to the closure of premises.

"I'd say that the number of pubs in the city has declined by between 30pc and 50pc over the past two decades, and the simple fact is that most of those licenses have gone to so-called "superpubs" in Dublin or off-licenses," Mr Dennehy said.

Yet, while Cork's pub numbers have plummeted, the total square footage of licensed premises has actually increased as the small, family-owned pubs have been replaced with large modern pubs.
 
i agree fully with eddie

but here's another theory too, might it be just putting it on the market to get a bid, so that they can go to the bank to get a remortgage or so further cash so they themselves can buy up more of the oliverplunkett st area to increase the complex?

EDDIEB said:
Well that the price we pay for living in a free market economy where we have to take the good with the bad - maybe I value Dennehy's,The Long Valley,Tom Barrys,Sin E and The Hi-B more than the Brog but thats just my opinion.
There's enough fake bullshit pubs without personality out there which are popular for 6 months until the next one comes along. I doubt that it will be apartments as it is zoned for Retail/Commercial use which is worth more to a developer.No interest in buying a shoe box in the city :-)
 
lampdat said:
Is that a double entendre or am I just wierd?
Nice one, EDDIEB.


Of course !

Anyhow a lot of Publicans are looking at the pub business going into decline and the property market having peaked. Testing the market I'd say and see what bites.
 
EDDIEB said:
Well that the price we pay for living in a free market economy where we have to take the good with the bad - maybe I value Dennehy's,The Long Valley,Tom Barrys,Sin E and The Hi-B more than the Brog but thats just my opinion.
There's enough fake bullshit pubs without personality out there which are popular for 6 months until the next one comes along. I doubt that it will be apartments as it is zoned for Retail/Commercial use which is worth more to a developer.No interest in buying a shoe box in the city :-)


I was the one who started that thread a while ago asking for good places to go after normal pub times on a friday or saturday, I agree with you that all of those pubs you just listed are way better than the brog but what are you supposed to do after 12:30? No one really could give me any good options, everyone i know that goes to the brog doesn't really like it all all (most hate it) but its the lesser of many evils if you want to stay out late. I tried to get people to come to the everyman but it was dead so we ended up going to ...the brog.....seems you just can win
 
perhaps people could start going out earlier again...
the brog is only a late bar about five years and people seem to think that's the way it always was

maybe we should call it the borg instead
 
paddypaws said:
You really have to wonder how much is enough? The place (the whole complex) generates over 90,000 Euro a week, which is lot of money in anyone’s book.
Kinda thought something like this might be on the cards cus they left it slip a bit regards the standard of the jacks and quality of the beer just got the feeling last year that they were running it into the ground.
Actually I was there the opening night.....god it was tiny

What The quality of beer got worse ?? how is that possible ? The beer was the most consistently diabolical dirty bad pint for twelve years ( Wino's wouldnt drink a pint from there, Let alone the slops )

Anyhow I do know a fair dew people who will cry about it , I'll remember fond memories , but at the end of the day It's a pub and not a local one either , If they feel they've
screwed enough money from us and we feel we didn't get to badly raped for the
times we had there 'S Aright. But definitely not placards and sit in times
 
@spudgun,
yeah in ways,i suppose it was...

not a call to arms or a serious topic for discussion or anything,just saying dont shoot the messenger,i wouldnt put up a topic without getting good info,is all.beside with the fact the i didnt subtitle the thread "debate whether i'm right or wrong" im no upset or anything,just you tend to,as smithy said,disagree with some peoples posts more than others, and while in many cases thats perfectly fair,theres no need to,in other cases.
as i said,my way of elaborately saying dont shoot the messenger!lol
all with a big fat IMO before it,obviously.


on the brog...

the pints were/are sometimes bad because of the distance the alcoholic fuid had to travel from the keg store to the bar front,more than any other reason.

i wont miss it per sé,but it does mark a change in cork that im not sure im ready for...

it'l happen with,or without us though,so we might as well roll with the punches!
 
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hans aus dtschl said:
@spudgun,
yeah in ways,i suppose it was...

not a call to arms or a serious topic for discussion or anything,just saying dont shoot the messenger,i wouldnt put up a topic without getting good info,is all.beside with the fact the i didnt subtitle the thread "debate whether i'm right or wrong" im no upset or anything,just you tend to,as smithy said,disagree with some peoples posts more than others, and while in many cases thats perfectly fair,theres no need to,in other cases.
as i said,my way of elaborately saying dont shoot the messenger!lol
all with a big fat IMO before it,obviously.

I was simply giving my opinion on the matter, which was wrong. I wasn't debating anything, i was giving my opinion. Never once did i say ''no its not being sold''.

I would hardly say that was what smithy was saying, i think it was more of a blatant attempty to wind me up. He should spend a bit more time on his cork producers website rather than trying to piss me off.

And finally, in reference to you comment on how i seem to trust jim more than you, well, from being in college you should know yourself you cannot validate a point from just one source, its better to get confirmation from at least 2 people before making a solid judgement.
 
spudgun said:
And finally, in reference to you comment on how i seem to trust jim more than you, well, from being in college you should know yourself you cannot validate a point from just one source, its better to get confirmation from at least 2 people before making a solid judgement.

no idea what you mean there?

in any case,it wasnt solely aimed at you,but as i said,in ways,it was also aimed at you.

and the fact that that's what i felt smithy was saying,should explain my posts in themselves?

in any case,its smithy that pointed out/said you were disagreeing with me(in a slight way?)...i honestly wouldnt have picked up on it otherwise!

cant say i cared too much either,tbh...im beyond getting upset at small things these days.
but i still felt i should make it clear that i posted the original thread from use of info,and sight of current trend,rather than speculation.be that from you,or anybody else at all.hope i've cleared that up?
 
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