Fair point but this grade is a tough grade to win. There's nothing between the majority of teams every year so it's all who performs on the day really. I can only go off what I seen this year, I watched most league & the championship games so far. One of Lisgoold, Mayfield or Aghabouluge will win it I reakon. I don't think ballygiblin have enough at this level. I think it's more paper talk building them up over their achievements the last few years. They were in a group with Douglas's second team & a depleted cloughduv compared to the last few years & Midleton's second team practically wiped the floor with them.