Sinn Fein are not a Normal Political Party

[SoundMan]

When was there ever a "Level playing pitch" in the rental market?

How many new rental properties (ballpark figure) would be delivered by giving individual landlords tax breaks who are leaving the market for a variety of reasons not simply tax anyway?

How many landlords would continue to rent property if evictions were simply "banned" by Sinn Fein?

Sound_y?

Why should the mega land-lords be given tax-breaks in a market making one of the highest, if not the highest, national rent rates in the EU?


Stacey?

 

[Stacky]

Why should the mega land-lords be given tax-breaks in a market making one of the highest, if not the highest, national rent rates in the EU?


Stacey?

You cannot answer any of the questions as per usual.

You want all landlords (fat cat capitalists) to get tax breaks?

 

[SoundMan]

Ok, let's plough through this sh*t one more time :

Twenty-three-year-old Thomas McElwee died in the hunger strikes on in 1981.

On October 9, 1976 one of his fire bombs killed Yvonne Dunlop from Ballymena who died while working in her father’s boutique, Alley Katz.

She was checking a shopping bag left by two girls when the fire bomb went off. She only just had time to shout a warning to her nine-year-old son to escape before she was caught in the fireball and was burned to death.

What kind of an organisation would deem a man who was involved in burning a young woman to death to be worthy of commemorating?

Would anyone in their right mind consider such an oganisation worthy of governing this country?

Surely not.

Also, SF want to raise employers PRSI at a time when many retailers are struggling to stay open because of rising energy and wage costs and are actively looking for government help. This move would drive up unemployment.

They also want to increase inheritance & capital gains tax, I don't think the middle classes, who are looking for an alternative to FF/FG, will go for policies such as this.

SF will be hammered at the next election on their taxation policies.

They also have no coherent climate strategy, other than to oppose the government at every turn.

Frank Aitken set up Fianna Fail, was a Minister in their various Governments, and was even asked be Dev to subsequently run for President at a time when President was practically a FF auto-appointment. Frank Aitken was involved in the Altnaveigh Massacres. Liam Lynch was a dyed-in-the-wool Republican who, even when his confederates said their cause was hopeless, insisted that the Civil War carry on, which of course resulted in even more deaths. Liam Lynch is to this day revered by Fianna Failers with Micheál Martin extolling his virtues. Such were the actions of the good "Old" IRA.

These were guys who not alone killed women and children, they deliberately killed women and children!

And yet they're revered by those that now wish to criticise others for commemorating likeminded people.

Political violence and armed Republicanism did not begin in Ireland in the 1960s no matter how much Fianna Fail and Fine Gael etc pretend that it did.

 

[SoundMan]

SF call for 50 eu increase in dole wont go down well with the voters they are trying to attract, Many potential first time sf
voters are the squeezed middle, People who wont be happy with the idea of paying out an extra 50eu,
Of course welfare rates will need to be increased but not by that amount.

Oh jimmy, if only you were in charge of the national strategy of SF you could do exactly what it is would go down well with the voters SF are trying to attract

 

[SoundMan]

Investor-landlords issuer aside, think people renting property always knew that a tax bill came with being in the rental market game.
It's not the tax so much as the red tape and hassle with renting these days. Dealing with RTB just sucks the life out of you and is time consuming. Landlords now dealing with mortgage interest increases but not allowed to pass on any of the increase to tenant if in a rent pressure zone.
Neighbours (an accidental landlord) were renting for years to friend of a friend and kept the rent at same level for over a decade, as tenant was known to them, didn't disturb the neighbours and kept the property in good nick.. When she left, RTB told them that they had to maintain rent at level of old tenancy even though inferior properties close by were getting way more. They just sold up.

Investor landlords tax breaks aside????

They can easily afford one person to do their multiple "red tape" dealings, while the lone house land-lord is in a much worse off position it being a much bigger part of his overhead.

There are no doubt hard cases (like the one you cite) which should surely be dealt with in an appeal mechanism, but the default should be try to keep the accomodation within an attainable level.

 

[SoundMan]

You cannot answer any of the questions as per usual.

You want all landlords (fat cat capitalists) to get tax breaks?

No I don't - I want all landlords to get taxed pro-rata on their rental income. I don't see why if Joe Bloggs is renting out a house and has to pay 20% of that income on tax, that Vulture Inc with 100 houses rented out doesn't have to pay tax on that.

 

[Stacky]

Frank Aitken set up Fianna Fail, was a Minister in their various Governments, and was even asked be Dev to subsequently run for President at a time when President was practically a FF auto-appointment. Frank Aitken was involved in the Altnaveigh Massacres. Liam Lynch was a dyed-in-the-wool Republican who, even when his confederates said their cause was hopeless, insisted that the Civil War carry on, which of course resulted in even more deaths. Liam Lynch is to this day revered by Fianna Failers with Micheál Martin extolling his virtues. Such were the actions of the good "Old" IRA.

These were guys who not alone killed women and children, they deliberately killed women and children!

And yet they're revered by those that now wish to criticise others for commemorating likeminded people.

Political violence and armed Republicanism did not begin in Ireland in the 1960s no matter how much Fianna Fail and Fine Gael etc pretend that it did.

Only back in 1998 within living memory the IRA signed up to a peace deal almost the same as the Sunningdale deal they denounced way back in 1973 and between those years thousands died needlessly.

The Ulster Workers strike and Unionism helped to collapse it but after the I.R.A. pledged to destroy it and that deal but it didn’t involve amending Articles 2 & 3 of the Irish Constitution and it had a stronger cross-border dimension.


Slow learners indeed and all that murder and mayhem for nothing and despite Michell O' Neills claims there was a real alternative to murder.

 

[Stacky]

No I don't - I want all landlords to get taxed pro-rata on their rental income. I don't see why if Joe Bloggs is renting out a house and has to pay 20% of that income on tax, that Vulture Inc with 100 houses rented out doesn't have to pay tax on that.

Tax them and ban evictions.

Interesting.

Landlords will just be queuing up.........................to get out like they are in their droves before the next election*



*Vulture funds purchase distressed properties at a discount while REITS etc are pension funds and investors cash.

 

[SoundMan]

Only back in 1998 within living memory the IRA signed up to a peace deal almost the same as the Sunningdale deal they denounced way back in 1973 and between those years thousands died needlessly.

The Ulster Workers strike and Unionism helped to collapse it but after the I.R.A. pledged to destroy it and that deal but it didn’t involve amending Articles 2 & 3 of the Irish Constitution and it had a stronger cross-border dimension.
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Slow learners indeed and all that murder and mayhem for nothing and despite Michell O' Neills claims there was a real alternative to murder.

In 1922 the Dail voted in favour of accepting the Anglo-Irish Treaty, and then those that went on to form Fianna Fail fell out with the Free Staters who accepted it and who went on to form Fine Gael and they started shooting each other over the AIT. Hundreds were killed. Within 10 years Fianna Fail were in Government because the people of this country voted for them. They're some of the irrefutable facts of Irish politics of the 20th Century.

This "within living memory" schtick is a handy yardstick for measuring history isn't it. Within who's living memory exactly? Remember back to the 1960s but no further? is it? Should we remember back to Fianna Fail TD from this very county who threatened to bring political opponents down to sing-sing, and who chuckled when he bragged of killing so many unarmed victims? Or does your "living memory" conveniently only go back to 1969 and no further?

Fianna Fail TD Martin Corry in the Dail expressed regret that Northern Ireland remained excluded, suggesting: "I personally am in favour of storing up sufficient poison gas, so that when you get the wind in the right direction you can start at the Border and let it travel, and follow it."

 

[Stacky]

In 1922 the Dail voted in favour of accepting the Anglo-Irish Treaty, and then those that went on to form Fianna Fail fell out with the Free Staters who accepted it and who went on to form Fine Gael and they started shooting each other over the AIT. Hundreds were killed. Within 10 years Fianna Fail were in Government because the people of this country voted for them. They're some of the irrefutable facts of Irish politics of the 20th Century.

This "within living memory" schtick is a handy yardstick for measuring history isn't it. Within who's living memory exactly? Remember back to the 1960s but no further? is it? Should we remember back to Fianna Fail TD from this very county who threatened to bring political opponents down to sing-sing, and who chuckled when he bragged of killing so many unarmed victims? Or does your "living memory" conveniently only go back to 1969 and no further?

Fianna Fail TD Martin Corry in the Dail expressed regret that Northern Ireland remained excluded, suggesting: "I personally am in favour of storing up sufficient poison gas, so that when you get the wind in the right direction you can start at the Border and let it travel, and follow it."

Brian Boru?

Cuchulainn?

The Fir Bolg?

Cromwell?

Hitler?

They did bad things long long ago so that absolves us of all the bad things that we did, so there....................


Michell O'Neill was lying through her hoop last week so she could justify unnecessary murder and mayhem for decades and going back to the dark ages or 1916 does not change that fact.