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Poster of Savage Greatness.
No shit. We live in strange times when stand up comedians have become a source of critical social theory.
No shit. We live in strange times when stand up comedians have become a source of critical social theory.
Correct. A scumbag. He’s articulate for sure but no less a scumbag for that.
His argument falls apart with even the smallest scrutiny.
What qualifications are needed to become a pundit?
How does it harm anyone to have female pundits/presenters?
Despite actual evidence and research on affirmative action and its benefits why does he rail so hard against it? On what basis does he oppose it?
He’s never answered any of those questions. The irony is of course is if were asked any of those questions he’d attack the interviewer to distract from the fact he can’t answer any of them.
No shit. We live in strange times when stand up comedians have become a source of critical social theory.
Great post, hard to disagree with any of it. The clip when he was ambushed on Piers Morgan just sums up the thinking from women on women’s football, they genuinely believe it’s the same thing.I wouldn't disagree. He's done some awful stuff.
That I don't agree with.
There's no strict qualification requirement, clearly.
But obviously one route in would be as a respected ex-player and his point is that players who have played the male game at the elite level are better qualified to give expert insight on the male game than their female equivalents.
tbf he also calls out that there are plenty of poor quality male commentators/pundits too.
He favours female commentators/pundits proving their chops covering female games before allowing the cream to rise to the top and for some of those to get a shot at plying their trade in the male game.
Some more qualified / able male candidates may lose out on a job opportunity - either at the inteview or pre-interview stage. It's a zero sum game.
And if less able people are in those roles then the listening public get a lower quality product.
Neither are apocalyptical outcomes, but neither are positive either.
I think he's made it clear that he opposes it because it's not a meritocracy.
(...whether that's his real view, or only reason, is up for debate of course)
He does offer some rationale to support his views.
Did you listen to the interview?
(...as I said, his persona in the interview was at odds with much of his Twitter bile)
Not sure I agree. There's a rich history of comedians commenting on social topics in a way that's both insightful and entertaining - Lenny Bruce, George Carlin, Richard Pryor & Bill Hicks among others.
Triggernometry put out some good content and are a good antidote to overly woke content elsewhere. I don't agree with all their views and I'm not a fan of every guest they have on but they at least seem to approach topics with an open mind and are willing to skewer some sacred cows from time to time.
Kisin is Russian and Foster is half-Venezualan, so their backgrounds can influence the way they tackle topics. Kisin was particularly insightful in the early stages of the Ukraine war, for example.
Sorry if I offended you. If you want to listen to edgy uneducated comedians for insight into how society works go right ahead. I hear Joe Rogan is wonderful this time of the year.
Until women themselves start supporting it I don't think there's a leg to stand on as regards equality.Great post, hard to disagree with any of it. The clip when he was ambushed on Piers Morgan just sums up the thinking from women on women’s football, they genuinely believe it’s the same thing.
The same thing here with the lidl advert for the LPGA and them bleating about equality. It has nothing to do with equality, if you have a poor product, people won’t go to watch it.
Offended? Why do you think that? I was laughing at your post hence the emoji.Sorry if I offended you. If you want to listen to edgy uneducated comedians for insight into how society works go right ahead. I hear Joe Rogan is wonderful this time of the year.
But this is his point, they aren’t being hired because they are the best available.If they're the best available I don't think the female commentators are really doing someone better out of a job.
Yes, I never heard of Joe Rogan, thanks for the tip. Another Roundyfail.I did watch the video and I was amused by the two lads criticizing the fragile left for being overly sensitive and the promotion of individuals because of their identity rather than their attributes but they feel confident enough to analyze complex social issues and opine on the state of modern football. Like I said you should check out Rogan. You would like him.
I'd take Lucy Ward over Hoddle, Jenus, McManaman and Hargreaves every time. I think she's fine on co-coms and she's pretty good on the Guardian football podcast too.Where I have a problem with Barton's view and I know he commented on this, is the male co commentators are putrid too. I find it very hard to complain about Lucy Ward when I might have to listen to Glenn Hoddle, Jermain Jenas or Steve McManaman etc. If they're the best available I don't think the female commentators are really doing someone better out of a job.
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