Immigration Thread

[TheOutdoorThreadmill]

Christ, these pricks are so embarrassing.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1785774694265762189

 

[jimmym]

Great post.


I wouldn’t have the current shower in charge of a bag of sweets.

A bunch of rank incompetents, batshit crazy ideologues and nepo babies.

About the only thing they can say for themselves is 'Sinn Fein will be worse'.


The country is crying out for a genuine alternative. The overwhelming defeat of the recent referendum showed that.

What or where is the genuine alternative?
The current situation is beyond shambolic, But who among the other parties would have managed it any better? Up to recently all of the opposition parties would have been in the let them all in camp but have began to pivot since,
Is there a space for a mcdowell led party?

 

[Stacky]

What or where is the genuine alternative?
The current situation is beyond shambolic, But who among the other parties would have managed it any better? Up to recently all of the opposition parties would have been in the let them all in camp but have began to pivot since,
Is there a space for a mcdowell led party?

The Rural Independents?


Party like its 1959.

Dinner to be eaten in the middle of the day by law.

Just a single program on T.V. (The Angelus)

"We know what is good for you" could be their campaign slogan.

 

[Fermoylad]

The Rural Independents?


Party like its 1959.

Dinner to be eaten in the middle of the day by law.

Just a single program on T.V. (The Angelus)

"We know what is good for you" could be their campaign slogan.

 

[doppellanger]

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It's not drinking straws, it's straws as in bales of straw.

Even the Rural Independents wouldn't have you if you don't know that.

 

[Purple Monkey Dishwasher]

What or where is the genuine alternative?
The current situation is beyond shambolic, But who among the other parties would have managed it any better? Up to recently all of the opposition parties would have been in the let them all in camp but have began to pivot since,
Is there a space for a mcdowell led party?

Its a genuinely strange situation.

Take the recent referendum. Every single party bar Aontu supported a yes vote. Its one thing for the parties of government to go along with it, its quite another for the supposed opposition to go along for the ride.

I expect Aontu will pick up a lot of votes in the upcoming local & Europeans. Your average Joe looking for an alternative is going to probably go with Independent candidates or Aontu as Labour/Social Dems are just more socially aware bollocks.

As you said Sinn Fein seem to be slowly recognising that woke, leftist ideology isn't a vote getter. There is a space for a Conservative right of centre party along the lines of the BBB in Holland.


One thing is for sure the disdainful politics of spin, disregard and sneering as embodied by the recently departed Varadkar isn't going to count for much in 2025.

 

[Meridian]

Department of Justice officials warned as early as 2022 that UK plans to deport asylum seekers to Rwanda were likely to make migrants “think twice” and look at other options like Ireland.
In a briefing on deportation Minister Helen McEntee was told that while Britain’s Rwanda policy was “mired in legal actions” it was still likely to have a knock-on effect for other states. It said it could make Ireland seem like “an attractive alternative” or as “a stepping stone” to later getting back into the UK permanently.
The briefing, which was prepared in 2022 as the department considered an end to a Covid-19 moratorium on deportations, said UK policy on migration would inevitably affect Ireland. It said: “The first transfer of refugees from the UK to Rwanda has yet to succeed. It is currently mired in legal actions.
“While it remains to be seen how successful the UK’s much criticised attempt to outsource its immigrant processing to Rwanda will be in reality, [it could be that the chance] of being removed to that state would cause migrants to the U.K. to think twice and seek alternatives.”
The briefing said if the UK was successful in reducing or deterring arrivals, neighbouring states would feel the impact. “Ireland may ultimately be seen as an attractive alternative, or a stepping stone to the UK via eventual Irish citizenship and the Common Travel Area at a later date. Such behaviour would not be new,” said the briefing.
The warnings about the Rwanda plan have come into stark relief as Justice Minister Helen McEntee said that at least 80 per cent of migrants were crossing the Border from Northern Ireland amid a diplomatic row with the UK over immigration.

The briefing also discussed the complexity of carrying out deportations even in cases which involved serious criminality. It explained how the only enforced removals that took place during the pandemic were ones where an individual was deemed to carry “an unacceptable risk to public safety”. However, these had been few and far between, and even still could be stopped by a person making a late application for international protection.
Officials wrote: “Applications have been lodged by individuals who have been in this State for many years and who, up to the point of deportation, never felt the need to make such an application.
“It is not desirable from a public safety perspective that individuals with serious criminal records or other offences considered suitable for deportation should remain at liberty in this State for prolonged periods while the State deals with potentially vexatious applications.”
It also cited difficulties in getting certain countries – the names of which were redacted from the briefing – to accept deportees back. This stemmed from “pandemic-related issues, dysfunctional administrative capabilities and outright unwillingness to co-operate”.
The briefing added: “It is also noteworthy that some of these states are also the beneficiaries of visas for their citizens from Ireland. A question of good faith and reciprocity may arise.”
The moratorium on removals had also created another problem where deportation orders signed prior to the Covid-19 pandemic might no longer be as robust and be subject to legal challenge. “The fact is that people’s circumstances change, and someone considered suitable for deportation three years ago may now, for example, be married to an Irish citizen or have Irish-born children,” said the document.

Justice officials warned McEntee of Rwanda policy knock-on effect as early as 2022

Any UK success in deterring arrivals would have an impact in neighbouring states, civil servants said

www.irishtimes.com

I do not accept this is incompetence, this is pure and utter stupidity. Simon Harris showed her up when he was in her job when she was on maternity leave.

She simply has to go and that other limp liberal Roderick O Gorman has to be removed from his position also.

 

[Fermoylad]

It's not drinking straws, it's straws as in bales of straw.

Even the Rural Independents wouldn't have you if you don't know that.

Did I draw the image?

 

[Purple Monkey Dishwasher]

They cant sack O'Gormless as The Greens will pull the plug.

McEntee should be gone. Shes an absolute liability. I wonder will she even keep her seat?

A walking advertisement for not voting for the family name.

 

[TheOutdoorThreadmill]

They cant sack O'Gormless as The Greens will pull the plug.

McEntee should be gone. Shes an absolute liability. I wonder will she even keep her seat?

A walking advertisement for not voting for the family name.

Absolutely, from carrying Slimon's briefcase around Brussels to the third most powerful gig in the Dail. Leo and his gender equality has a lot to answer for.