The Official Irish Rugby Thread

[nelly sham]

Awful rugby in South Africa, they had no interest in doing anything other than play for penalties. Wales stole it at the end with a quality touch line conversion from Anscombe after he missed two easier penalties.

 

[keamoresouth]

As might be expected, the lads in NZ are taking the defeat well:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/129229015/all-blacks-red-card-shows-rugby-is-torn-between-and-player-safety-and-common-sense

 

[keamoresouth]

And surprise surprise Eddie Jones is jumping on the "common sense" bandwagon:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1545867911109439488

Jesus lads. Take your head out of your arse at some stage and smell the coffee. If the CTE sufferers come at ye NFL-style in 10 years it'll take more than Lions Tours every 3 years to bail ye out. Surely it's better to be Not Rugby League than Rugby League Lite?

 

[nelly sham]

Erra fuck Eddie Jones. Guys a dinosaur and been found out. Walking soundbite machine these days. He’d want to get his own house in order.

 

[Barry K O Bama]

The only negative to take out of the Game is that the win will take the focus off the appalling officiating.

There were some very poor decisions :-

(1) The reckless collision on Mack Hansen :- The rules are pretty clear - that type of reckless contact with the head must be eliminated primarily through red card sanction. It will stop it but officials must be held to account for the good of the game. Mack Hansen has the right to be protected against very serious injury - not good enough to ignore this.

(2) The failure to award a penalty try. There was no covering defender and Peyper cannot be allowed to see something that isn't there. Also a big failure by TWO

(3) The failure to know the rule on the uncontested scrum. You can't have match officials at this top level that don't know the rules. This is not the Irish Health Service - if you can't do your job you should be fired.

A few more poor but less important bad decisions. eg Ireland pinged in attacking scrum (by touchline asst) when replay showed All Black Prop going to ground. Ireland pinged for knock on when AB tapped the ball from Ireland Player. Some very obvious throws by ABs not straight. Illegally slowing the ruck by ABs. Generally mistakes even out so maybe a few bad calls v ABs ?

Peyper is a well paid professional referee - If he can't ref a high profile game like this then he needs to be retired. Should be called out IMO. It's very hard to get fair reffing v ABs and it should be highlighted IMO - good time now because we can't be accused of sour grapes. Best after 3rd test

 

[Hank Scorpio]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1545757899372347393

 

[Barry K O Bama]

Already briefly referred to but it's a big issue

World Rugby is sitting on an Financial Time Bomb and is just racking up the evidence for future litigants by allowing officials like Peyper and his TMO to refuse to protect players safety.

Lawyers will lick their lips when looking at replays of the Hansen Assault

These guys are burning serious cash with their ineptitude

 

[nelly sham]

The only negative to take out of the Game is that the win will take the focus off the appalling officiating.

There were some very poor decisions :-

(1) The reckless collision on Mack Hansen :- The rules are pretty clear - that type of reckless contact with the head must be eliminated primarily through red card sanction. It will stop it but officials must be held to account for the good of the game. Mack Hansen has the right to be protected against very serious injury - not good enough to ignore this.

(2) The failure to award a penalty try. There was no covering defender and Peyper cannot be allowed to see something that isn't there. Also a big failure by TWO

(3) The failure to know the rule on the uncontested scrum. You can't have match officials at this top level that don't know the rules. This is not the Irish Health Service - if you can't do your job you should be fired.

A few more poor but less important bad decisions. eg Ireland pinged in attacking scrum (by touchline asst) when replay showed All Black Prop going to ground. Ireland pinged for knock on when AB tapped the ball from Ireland Player. Some very obvious throws by ABs not straight. Illegally slowing the ruck by ABs. Generally mistakes even out so maybe a few bad calls v ABs ?

Peyper is a well paid professional referee - If he can't ref a high profile game like this then he needs to be retired. Should be called out IMO. It's very hard to get fair reffing v ABs and it should be highlighted IMO - good time now because we can't be accused of sour grapes. Best after 3rd test

Barry, id agree with almost all of that except for point 2. They were wrong to mention cover but the fact sexton never got a pass away, to me, means it couldn’t be a penalty try. Stonewall yellow alright though.

The rest all stands, add Peyper apologising to cane for every card as well. Barrett and Retallick were hitting every ruck from the side (all is an exaggeration but they were always at it). The Hansen incident was a red too, yer man Leicester was shite though, benefitted from him staying on if anything.

 

[Barry K O Bama]

I'd need to look at that again NS

But Pepper considered a Penalty Try but decided against stating that there was cover.
No chance of any defender getting back

I'd guess that Sexton getting the pass away was irrelevant because the pull back occurred just before he'd have passed.

The impeding had to impact on Sextons opportunity to pass.
All of the comments, even from NZ press say ABs very lucky not to concede P Try

 

[nelly sham]

Do yourselves a favour lads, don’t check the team for the Māori game. Earls at 13, a12 playing 10, Treadwell starting. I’d heart a bit of chat that Baird is “difficult to work with”, he must be fuming at this. I hope Ben Healy went somewhere nice for his holidays.