The County Board Complaints Thread

[Keeks]

Charlie Wilson from Newcestown and Paudie Crowley from Skibbereen would be the two GDA's who I know do hurling aswell

I didn't realise that Charlie was a GDA......dont think he is now

And I see Paudie has moved onto another position now - Assistant Head of Count Games Development...whatever that is

 

[Banofie Magpie]

Here is the Info....

Cork County Committee Bulletin 05/03/2024 – Cork GAA

gaacork.ie

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Thanks for this. It’s very clear.
This report outlines that Corks coaching was already funded for 2023 up to the end of the summer under the old funding arrangement.
So, money couldn’t be drawn down from both the old and new funds to cover the same coaching twice.
The reports says that all the undrawn funds ~€500k is going to be spent on other coaching items in 2024 & 2025! Brilliant really

 

[Banofie Magpie]

For sure he is.....I just posted that link also to see the reaction :

Its more Philip Kerrs comments that I am more interested in peoples thoughts on.....I am of the opinion that the answer to the problem with our County teams lies with the Clubs. I fully believe that they are the problem. You can have all the Development Squads and Academies etc, but when players go back playing with their clubs, all that works seems to be coached right back out of them.

Very true. The standard of coaching at underage club is lower than what it used to be. The length of season and heavy work load involved turns many away

 

[Reservedcitizen]

Pat Spillane said they left €500000 on the table. The report from the board meeting says they will be drawing down the €500000 over the next 2 years. So he was right. Whatever the reasoning for not drawing it down, is inconsequential. If they don't have the business plans in place for not drawing it down is the fault of the county board. I don't think it was a case of them finding out about the money at the last minute.

 

[Banofie Magpie]

Pat Spillane said they left €500000 on the table. The report from the board meeting says they will be drawing down the €500000 over the next 2 years. So he was right. Whatever the reasoning for not drawing it down, is inconsequential. If they don't have the business plans in place for not drawing it down is the fault of the county board. I don't think it was a case of them finding out about the money at the last minute.

If you think Spillane is right, then you are suggesting Cork GAA should have commuted fraud. Anyone saying the bitter lemon is correct must also not know how GAA grants are administered and drawn down.

 

[The Highway Man]

"Pat Spillane is Right" . Seriously can we get IQ Requirements before Fellas can join this forum.

 

[TheEarlofPearl]

"Pat Spillane is Right" . Seriously can we get IQ Requirements before Fellas can join this forum.

Lucky for you, you've joined already.

 

[Keeks]

Pat Spillane said they left €500000 on the table. The report from the board meeting says they will be drawing down the €500000 over the next 2 years. So he was right. Whatever the reasoning for not drawing it down, is inconsequential. If they don't have the business plans in place for not drawing it down is the fault of the county board. I don't think it was a case of them finding out about the money at the last minute.

This shows people don't read. IF they do they don't understand.

Firstly Spillane did not Say they left €500k. He said his colleague (McGoldrick) did, but McGoldrick has been writing about money spent on coaching for years taking pot shots at the GAA.

Secondly, this new funding mechanism for coaching from the GAA was only agreed at last years congress. It would be a couple of months before the I's were crossed and Ts dotted before the County Boards would know for sure the allocated budget.

So if we say they they knew what they could spend in April last year, they would only have 6 months to spend the 2023 allocation of month (GAA financial year from from October to September).

The first step Cork Gaa took was to hire a Head of Games Development (Niall Twomey) - This was advertised in Mid March and he started in July - And the 3 or 4 months in not a lot of time for that type of recruitment, between advertising the position, interviewing, agreed ts&c and giving notice etc.

Then for the the head of games development to review what was needed, Advertise for GDA (Advertised July 2024), interview and offer positions - another 3 months is not bad either.

And this is all with dealing with the bureaucracy of the GAA.

And it has been mentioned that All County Board underspent -

Now I am not defending the County Board here. It great that they are getting the money, and spending it....the big questions is are they spending it correctly...only time will tell

 

[Keeks]

Can anyone tell me the point of these two positions? Are we seeing a benefit to them?

 

[Banofie Magpie]

This shows people don't read. IF they do they don't understand.

Firstly Spillane did not Say they left €500k. He said his colleague (McGoldrick) did, but McGoldrick has been writing about money spent on coaching for years taking pot shots at the GAA.

Secondly, this new funding mechanism for coaching from the GAA was only agreed at last years congress. It would be a couple of months before the I's were crossed and Ts dotted before the County Boards would know for sure the allocated budget.

So if we say they they knew what they could spend in April last year, they would only have 6 months to spend the 2023 allocation of month (GAA financial year from from October to September).

The first step Cork Gaa took was to hire a Head of Games Development (Niall Twomey) - This was advertised in Mid March and he started in July - And the 3 or 4 months in not a lot of time for that type of recruitment, between advertising the position, interviewing, agreed ts&c and giving notice etc.

Then for the the head of games development to review what was needed, Advertise for GDA (Advertised July 2024), interview and offer positions - another 3 months is not bad either.

And this is all with dealing with the bureaucracy of the GAA.

And it has been mentioned that All County Board underspent -

Now I am not defending the County Board here. It great that they are getting the money, and spending it....the big questions is are they spending it correctly...only time will tell

Good post. Just one key thing I’d add to it is that Cork GAA confirmed that they were fully funded through the old funding model for the first 3 quarters of 2023, so they could only access the new fund from Q4 onwards.
To draw down money from 2 separate funds for the same GAA activity would have been fraud. We have seen plenty people in prominent people in the community convicted for fraudulent funding claims.
It’s good that the €500k is ring fenced.
I do share your concerns and hope it isn’t just another HSE job and throwing money after bad..