The County Board Complaints Thread

[BossHogg]

Good to hear these board meetings are discussing the crucial Cork GAA issues of medals and erecting statues of michael collins....

 

[peopleluas]

County medals are things prized by players and their families. For most of these u19 players (a good few hundred of them), this county medal is the biggest award they would or will achieve in their GAA playing career. For the county board executive to take a position that they won't award medals, and the players' clubs can give 'em whatever medals they want to, is an insulting disrespect to these players. These players will perceive whatever they get instead to be macyeeya medals, and the competition to have been a macyeeya competition. The players who competed and lost may even consider that they only lost out in a macyeeya competition anyway. Basically that's kind of the reason given too - i.e. these 23 u19 competitions were not like the other county competitions so the county board won't award medals for them.

This is a very big mistake. We all make 'em, and those who do most make most of 'em. The great thing about this mistake though is that it is so easily reversed. If there's anybody reading here who is connected to anybody in the county executive, and who agrees to any extent with the point I am making, please please advise them that this is a big mistake that should be reversed immediately - and all credit will go to them for recognizing the mistake and reversing it. Don't leave this bad taste linger into the season of club-AGMs, and club-end-of-year-medal-ceremonies.

 

[red&blue]

County medals are things prized by players and their families. For most of these u19 players (a good few hundred of them), this county medal is the biggest award they would or will achieve in their GAA playing career. For the county board executive to take a position that they won't award medals, and the players' clubs can give 'em whatever medals they want to, is an insulting disrespect to these players. These players will perceive whatever they get instead to be macyeeya medals, and the competition to have been a macyeeya competition. The players who competed and lost may even consider that they only lost out in a macyeeya competition anyway. Basically that's kind of the reason given too - i.e. these 23 u19 competitions were not like the other county competitions so the county board won't award medals for them.

This is a very big mistake. We all make 'em, and those who do most make most of 'em. The great thing about this mistake though is that it is so easily reversed. If there's anybody reading here who is connected to anybody in the county executive, and who agrees to any extent with the point I am making, please please advise them that this is a big mistake that should be reversed immediately - and all credit will go to them for recognizing the mistake and reversing it. Don't leave this bad taste linger into the season of club-AGMs, and club-end-of-year-medal-ceremonies.

Just for clarity I think there were only 8 County finals, the rest were regional finals. An awful decision none the less

 

[peopleluas]

Just for clarity I think there were only 8 County finals, the rest were regional finals. An awful decision none the less

I had understood that @red&blue. But was it the divisions that organized/ran those regional competitions/finals or was it the county board? (I honestly don't know, but I think it might have been the CCB).

Anyway, look I just hope that this decision is reversed - it's a pretty long standing tradition, and thus a reasonable expectation by players, that players in a winning championship competition team are awarded medals by whatever unit of the organization organizes the competition.

 

[leeside_rebel]

While the debt on Pairc ui chaoimh is obviously still a huge issue, I'm glad the county chairman referenced a Centre of Excellence.
It's something that should still be planned away for even if it's years away.
Cork need some place central with about 4/5 pitches where all development squads and county panels can train. Gym facility, etc. Location I'm not sure?
But some place easily accessible traffic wise where it's not a burden or hassle for parents dropping lads off

 

[red&blue]

I had understood that @red&blue. But was it the divisions that organized/ran those regional competitions/finals or was it the county board? (I honestly don't know, but I think it might have been the CCB).

Anyway, look I just hope that this decision is reversed - it's a pretty long standing tradition, and thus a reasonable expectation by players, that players in a winning championship competition team are awarded medals by whatever unit of the organization organizes the competition.

I’m presuming it was the county Board that organised all the different regional competitions but god knows. The East, West, Notth and Mid winners went foward to the County semi finals, and there was also Premier 1 and Premier 2 competitions so whoever organised them regions must have known there were County semi finals for the winners. Mad to think the board won’t now recognise them as County Championships

 

[Grasshopper]

I had understood that @red&blue. But was it the divisions that organized/ran those regional competitions/finals or was it the county board? (I honestly don't know, but I think it might have been the CCB).

Anyway, look I just hope that this decision is reversed - it's a pretty long standing tradition, and thus a reasonable expectation by players, that players in a winning championship competition team are awarded medals by whatever unit of the organization organizes the competition.

It's a mad one - in general I think the K O'Donovan is very savvy and would have headed this off, how much could a few set's of medals cost, sometimes Sheehan comes across like a rabbit in the headlights and might "enjoy" his position a bit too much

 

[Grasshopper]

While the debt on Pairc ui chaoimh is obviously still a huge issue, I'm glad the county chairman referenced a Centre of Excellence.
It's something that should still be planned away for even if it's years away.
Cork need some place central with about 4/5 pitches where all development squads and county panels can train. Gym facility, etc. Location I'm not sure?
But some place easily accessible traffic wise where it's not a burden or hassle for parents dropping lads off

It's good to hear - but it should never be forgotten that the P ui C development was supposed to encompass a Center of Excellence, when from the very beginning it was going to have nothing more than the 3G pitch and a new gym outside of the main stadium.
Also worth remembering the likes of Bob, Pearce and Franks other buddies who claimed that we'd have a debt free stadium and C.of. Ec.
Two other points:
The stadium, while relatively new has a lifespan of 20 - 25 yrs, so it;s likely that we'll only have the debt cleared 5 - 10 yrs before the next significant development begins.
Any center of excellence development should be done in conjunction with other sports bodies, 3rd level institutions and municipal bodies, to cater for a wide variety of needs across high performance sports and save by sharing facilities

 

[Keeks]

Cork need some place central with about 4/5 pitches where all development squads and county panels can train. Gym facility, etc. Location I'm not sure?
But some place easily accessible traffic wise where it's not a burden or hassle for parents dropping lads off

Is this really the best Idea? To have somewhere central?

Having one spot means that you limit the numbers going to it and by limit I mean the number that can be trained at one time.

What i think needs to happen is that the standard of the club games need to be improved.
IF you have a coupe of Regional Centres of excellence and get more youths into - build up their skill levels and let them take that back to their clubs and help raise the skill level there.

The skill level of the club games should improve - which will push on those playing county

 

[fruice]

Money is obviously a key factor a mid cork venue is the obvious solution.

Places like mallow, Banteer,Bishopstown Etc are being used night and day currently.

One Centre of excellence and at least one full size Astro in each division and you would be going a long way to getting things right.