Russia's unjustifiable war of aggression in Ukraine

[Stacky]

Macron is chipping in with a few others for 800000 Artillery shells while North Koreans send 3 million 152 shells..if Marcron wanted the Kerch Bridge would be down in 5 mins… talk is cheap

Thsy are mostly from the 1970's or 1980's and defective.

 

[Dr. Aaoouh]

The Russians are obliterating the Ukrainians.

You wish, sad little tool.

But whatabout Vietnam, Afghanistan, etc etc?

Fail.

 

[King Silkbeard]

You wish, sad little tool.

But whatabout Vietnam, Afghanistan, etc etc?

Fail.

Ukraine is neither one of those countries.

 

[TheEarlofPearl]

The Russians are obliterating the Ukrainians.

Is there somewhere we can see the scoreboard?

 

[Dr. Aaoouh]

Ukraine is neither one of those countries.

Don't like whataboutism when it's aimed at you, do you?

I'm old enough to remember when Vietnam and Afghanistan (twice: once by the USSR and once by America) were being "obliterated". Never happened. Your problem is that you have no idea what Ukraine is fighting for. So yes, they are in fact Vietnam and Afghanistan.

 

[an liathroid beag]

Why are they Afraid to deploy the T-14 and the SU-57?

On Monday, the head of a Russian state-owned weapons manufacturer, Rostec, revealed that Moscow is ultimately unlikely to use the T-14 tanks in Ukraine because they are far too costly, despite these weapons supposedly being more advanced and functional than Moscow's existing inventory of tanks.


The relationship between the T-14 and the Ukraine war bears similar hallmarks to what British intelligence and aviation experts have previously said about the Su-57, which is Russia's highly touted first attempt at a fifth-generation fighter jet, the kind of aircraft that should be able to make a difference in a war like Ukraine.

Known by NATO as the "Felon," the Su-57 was delivered to Moscow's military in 2020, but there are only a very small number of these aircraft in its arsenal. There is also only very limited evidence that the fighter jet has seen action in Ukraine, mainly just Russian reports that the plane has fired missiles from positions considerably far from the front lines.

"Russia is highly likely prioritizing avoiding the reputational damage, reduced export prospects, and the compromise of sensitive technology which would come from any loss" of the Su-57 over Ukraine, Britain's defense ministry said in an early 2023 intelligence update on the war.


Indeed, were Russia to lose one of its Su-57s to Ukraine's highly capable air-defense systems, it would strike a blow to the fighter's reputation and potentially place its much-needed foreign sales in jeopardy, aviation experts previously told Business Insider.

The experts also said that any loss of the aircraft would result in sensitive technologies eventually falling right into NATO hands and suggested that Moscow's reluctance to rely more on the Felon indicates a lack of confidence in its purported stealth capabilities.

It's unclear if there may be similar concerns about the capabilities of the T-14 Armata, but a previous intelligence update noted than Russian commanders in Ukraine would be "unlikely to trust" the new tank in battle.

 

[Stacky]

 

[Swanforthelough]

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Thsy are mostly from the 1970's or 1980's and defective.

Even if half are defective which is on optimistic side if you are Ukrainian, still twice what is coming from Europe never mind what is coming from Iran..

 

[Swanforthelough]

Why are they Afraid to deploy the T-14 and the SU-57?

On Monday, the head of a Russian state-owned weapons manufacturer, Rostec, revealed that Moscow is ultimately unlikely to use the T-14 tanks in Ukraine because they are far too costly, despite these weapons supposedly being more advanced and functional than Moscow's existing inventory of tanks.


The relationship between the T-14 and the Ukraine war bears similar hallmarks to what British intelligence and aviation experts have previously said about the Su-57, which is Russia's highly touted first attempt at a fifth-generation fighter jet, the kind of aircraft that should be able to make a difference in a war like Ukraine.

Known by NATO as the "Felon," the Su-57 was delivered to Moscow's military in 2020, but there are only a very small number of these aircraft in its arsenal. There is also only very limited evidence that the fighter jet has seen action in Ukraine, mainly just Russian reports that the plane has fired missiles from positions considerably far from the front lines.

"Russia is highly likely prioritizing avoiding the reputational damage, reduced export prospects, and the compromise of sensitive technology which would come from any loss" of the Su-57 over Ukraine, Britain's defense ministry said in an early 2023 intelligence update on the war.


Indeed, were Russia to lose one of its Su-57s to Ukraine's highly capable air-defense systems, it would strike a blow to the fighter's reputation and potentially place its much-needed foreign sales in jeopardy, aviation experts previously told Business Insider.

The experts also said that any loss of the aircraft would result in sensitive technologies eventually falling right into NATO hands and suggested that Moscow's reluctance to rely more on the Felon indicates a lack of confidence in its purported stealth capabilities.

It's unclear if there may be similar concerns about the capabilities of the T-14 Armata, but a previous intelligence update noted than Russian commanders in Ukraine would be "unlikely to trust" the new tank in battle.

T14 just too expensive and not tested, given the T-80 and T-90 performance back to the tried and tested T72.

When the first downed SU 34 was shipped back to USA in late 22 the jammer took a long time to work out. Suddenly now planes are falling from the Sky at a rate of knots. Not sure the SU 57 has a better jammer and would fare any better but would be a PR disaster. If the jammer was not cracked by the yanks SU 57s would be in the sky.

 

[Coach and Six]

, Kiev is nowhere near its war aims of taking back Crimea and the Donbass which are effectively Russian.

While Moscow, who started the war/not-war, has achieved its aims.