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Hank Scorpio

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What percentage of ownership do German fans have in their clubs?

They're supposed to own 50+1 %.

The most recent figures I found for Bayern, fans own about 82% of the club .

Qatar, Saudi Arabia and UAE human rights records should preclude them from owning Western football clubs.

Between Oil nations, Yank carpetbaggers, a Bond villain and online betting companies English football is a complete cesspool.


FIFA are scum for awarding the world cup to Qatar but we already knew that.


Contrast the Bayern fans stance with the imbeciles in Newcastle wildly celebrating with tea towels on their heads.

If you want to see blinkered fans look no further than the PROC. 'Our carpetbagging yank owners who tried to destroy European football are better than your carpetbagging yank owners who tried to destroy european football'.

Unbelievable Jeff.
 
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They're supposed to own 50+1 %.

The most recent figures I found for Bayern, fans own about 82% of the club .

Qatar, Saudi Arabia and UAE human rights records should preclude them from owning Western football clubs.

Between Oil nations, Yank carpetbaggers, a Bond villain and online betting companies English football is a complete cesspool.


FIFA are scum for awarding the world cup to Qatar but we already knew that.


Contrast the Bayern fans stance with the imbeciles in Newcastle wildly celebrating with tea towels on their heads.

If you want to see blinkered fans look no further than the PROC. 'Our carpetbagging yank owners who tried to destroy European football are better than your carpetbagging yank owners who tried to destroy european football'.

Unbelievable Jeff.
In the race to the bottom, Newcastle fans can point to the ownership at other succesful clubs and claim English football lost its soul years ago, so why single us out now.

Like the Abu Dhabu group and Man City, the Saudis were clever enough to target a success-starved fanbase that would be willing to ignore the optics of sports-washing to win trophies. It's harder to dismiss the human rights dimension when you are dealing with the fanbase of a great club like Bayern, who are used to success and wouldn't be as submissive.

There is also a greater disconnect between football clubs and their fanbases in England, than there is in Germany and elsewhere. Or at least that is the case in the Premier League where the whole experience is sanitised beyond belief. With so much TV money rolling around, match-day income isn't seen as important as it is in the lower leagues. Supporters of the bigger clubs are dismissed as 'legacy fans' whose seat in the stand could easily by taken by another willing customer/tourist, who would spend more in the club shops. Once the stadium looks full for the watching millions in Asia and elsewhere, who really cares who fills the seat?
 

Hank Scorpio

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In the race to the bottom, Newcastle fans can point to the ownership at other succesful clubs and claim English football lost its soul years ago, so why single us out now.

Like the Abu Dhabu group and Man City, the Saudis were clever enough to target a success-starved fanbase that would be willing to ignore the optics of sports-washing to win trophies. It's harder to dismiss the human rights dimension when you are dealing with the fanbase of a great club like Bayern, who are used to success and wouldn't be as submissive.

There is also a greater disconnect between football clubs and their fanbases in England, than there is in Germany and elsewhere. Or at least that is the case in the Premier League where the whole experience is sanitised beyond belief. With so much TV money rolling around, match-day income isn't seen as important as it is in the lower leagues. Supporters of the bigger clubs are dismissed as 'legacy fans' whose seat in the stand could easily by taken by another willing customer/tourist, who would spend more in the club shops. Once the stadium looks full for the watching millions in Asia and elsewhere, who really cares who fills the seat?

Attracting sponsors and filling those season ticket subs is predicated upon success.

United look to be the exception to the rule but another two or three years in the wilderness and suddenly they're not such an attractive prospect for Adidas and teamviewer.

Citys ground is 2/3 full half the time and their books are cooked with makey uppy sponsors numbers.


Erra football has been a business with a long time. Bayern's supporter shareholders are to be commended for their stance with Quatar sponsorship.
 
Attracting sponsors and filling those season ticket subs is predicated upon success.

United look to be the exception to the rule but another two or three years in the wilderness and suddenly they're not such an attractive prospect for Adidas and teamviewer.

Citys ground is 2/3 full half the time and their books are cooked with makey uppy sponsors numbers.


Erra football has been a business with a long time. Bayern's supporter shareholders are to be commended for their stance with Quatar sponsorship.
Sponsors are mainly interested in brand recognition, social media engagement and the like.

'Success' on the field is a secondary concern in most of the board rooms of the bigger PL clubs.

Qualifying for the Champions League is considered acceptable now as it protects your international profile and potential to attract more fans in Kuala Lumpur and Beijing.

Clubs who can't even compete in their own domestic leagues currently, couldn't wait to jump ship to the ESL just to make up the numbers. They wouldn't have a hope of ever winning a trophy, but who cares when the money keeps rolling in.
 

Megelus

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Side note on the German thing. RB Leipzig kinda sidestepped the 50+1 rule and are essentially looked on as pariahs by other German club teams for it.

They do seem to have gained a decent core of support comparable with other teams but the ownership situation differentiates them.

Their (bundesliga) supporters were also able to successfully protest against the Monday night football model being introduced.
 

TheOutdoorThreadmill

Poster of Savage Greatness.
Side note on the German thing. RB Leipzig kinda sidestepped the 50+1 rule and are essentially looked on as pariahs by other German club teams for it.

They do seem to have gained a decent core of support comparable with other teams but the ownership situation differentiates them.

Their (bundesliga) supporters were also able to successfully protest against the Monday night football model being introduced.
Hoffenheim, Wolfsburg and Leverkusen as well
 

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