Next Government

[sloblock]

How many factions of the left have we?

AAA
PBP
WP
SF
Socialist Party
Possibly Labour

As you presumably know, AAA-PBP have allied, and the SP is affiliated to AAA. And it is hard to see how any sensible person could call LP left!
So really there is SF, AAA-PBP, and a WP with no oireachtas representation and 2 city councillors.


And how many factions of the right?

FG
FF
LP
Renua

 

[Hard Shaw]

FG / Lab

I believe Labour will do a lot better in the GE than people expect them to do.

 

[sloblock]

FG / Lab

I believe Labour will do a lot better in the GE than people expect them to do.

Honest question now.... why do you think that?

For my part, I think they will be in the 6 to 9 bracket.

 

[Hard Shaw]

Honest question now.... why do you think that?

For my part, I think they will be in the 6 to 9 bracket.

Slow strengthening of support that is beginning in Dublin and will spread, a soft left party that has policies at least somewhat attuned to economic realism, a strong history of progressive social change and .... a party that has now a decent, tough as nails leader, an excellent debater who will wipe the floor with the other candidates ((esp Adams) in live debates.

Saying that I would only vote FG as a first preference.

 

[CORKBHOY]

As you presumably know, AAA-PBP have allied, and the SP is affiliated to AAA. And it is hard to see how any sensible person could call LP left!
So really there is SF, AAA-PBP, and a WP with no oireachtas representation and 2 city councillors.


And how many factions of the right?

FG
FF
LP
Renua

They are still different parties though, right?

Genuine question.

 

[sloblock]

They are still different parties though, right?

Genuine question.

AAA is made up of SP and non-SP members. Can't say the exact proportions, but in Cork 2 of their councillors are SP and one isn't. I think it's more 50/50 in Dublin, not sure of elsewhere.

But no candidates will be running as SP in this election.

 

[sloblock]

Slow strengthening of support that is beginning in Dublin and will spread, a soft left party that has policies at least somewhat steeped in economic realism, a history of progressive social change and .... has now a decent, tough as nails leader and excellent debater who will wipe the floor with the other candidates ((esp Adams) in live debates.

Saying that I would only vote FG as a first preference.

fair enough. I can't agree with you tbh (more soft right than soft left; poor leader who turns nasty and tangential given the chance) but I of course respect your opinion.

 

[CORKBHOY]

AAA is made up of SP and non-SP members. Can't say the exact proportions, but in Cork 2 of their councillors are SP and one isn't. I think it's more 50/50 in Dublin, not sure of elsewhere.

But no candidates will be running as SP in this election.

Interesting. So as the movement grows, if it does, the SP will become extinct?

 

[sloblock]

Interesting. So as the movement grows, if it does, the SP will become extinct?

Not sure tbh. I expect the SP would remain as a Marxist tendency within the AAA, no real need for them to liquidate.

 

[CORKBHOY]

Not sure tbh. I expect the SP would remain as a Marxist tendency within the AAA, no real need for them to liquidate.

Having a de facto party within a party is only ever going to lead to the inevitable, I.e. a split.