Immigration Thread

[TheRebelRoar]

It just seems so obvious to discuss correct facts to dispel untruths on both sides.

Alas as exhibited here some get very frustrated and emotional when presented with facts that it seems they don't want to hear.

Precisely.

If it is indeed a myth that migrant crime hasn't significantly or even moderately increased in Ireland in the last ten years then Gardai noting the nationality and country of origin of those being entered in the Pulse system should only strengthen the position of allies of migrants/migrant rights groups.

Trying to dispute and argue strongly against the facts in countries where crimes and sexual crimes are recorded by nationality is just plain strange tbqphwy.

A pretty fucked up hill to die on, by any measure.

 

[hemlock666]

Ah you're being immature now.

A few studies and stats showing you that there may be a big issue regarding immigration in Europe and you get all shitty and throw your toys out of the pram.

Nearly 20% of prisoners in Ireland are not irish and up to 50% in some areas in Europe not same nationality and you lose your shit over it.

Where did I lose my shit exactly?

You alt/hero posted screenshots of outdated and vague data then misinterpreted it and turned stroppy when I pointed this out.

Now you are both upset.

C'est la vie.

 

[TheRebelRoar]

You did your Google hero routine on the Visegrad Tweet and then danced around my figures before an entirely predictable/predicted nitpick session as they don't suit your argument.

Now all that aside HemY, do you think the Irish cops should be recording the nationality of those engaging in violent and sexual crimes?

And if not, how come?



You don't have an argument m8, you only pick holes in others. Juvenile rubbish.

 

[Dogwide]

Precisely.

If it is indeed a myth that migrant crime hasn't significantly or even moderately increased in Ireland in the last ten years then Gardai noting the nationality and country of origin of those being entered in the Pulse system should only strengthen the position of allies of migrants/migrant rights groups.

Trying to dispute and argue strongly against the facts in countries where crimes and sexual crimes are recorded by nationality is just plain strange tbqphwy.

A pretty fucked up hill to die on, by any measure.

You would love to hear the logic of the decision makers that restrict the collection of nationality data associated with crime.

If it is intended to minimise racism , there's an argument to be made that it maybe doing the opposite.

 

[hemlock666]

You did your Google hero routine on the Visegrad Tweet and then danced around my figures before an entirely predictable/predicted nitpick session as they don't suit your argument.

Now all that aside HemY, do you think the Irish cops should be recording the nationality of those engaging in violent and sexual crimes?

And if not, how come?



You don't have an argument m8, you only pick holes in others. Juvenile rubbish.

Salty tears. Anymore Monty Python videos?

 

[Dogwide]

Where did I lose my shit exactly?

You alt/hero posted screenshots of outdated and vague data then misinterpreted it and turned stroppy when I pointed this out.

Now you are both upset.

C'est la vie.

Ah you're getting personal now.
Can't you see the effect this is having on you today getting snarky with everyone?

Blood pressure constantly rising, muttering at people, kicking the cat probably.

And all because you were given facts that you didn't like and were made to look oblivious by RR.

 

[TheRebelRoar]

You would love to hear the logic of the decision makers that restrict the collection of nationality data associated with crime.

If it is intended to minimise racism , there's an argument to be made that it maybe doing the opposite.

I'd agree, if its not an issue then it's completely counter productive.

 

[TheRebelRoar]

Salty tears. Anymore Monty Python videos?

Won't answer a simple question.


Sad

 

[hemlock666]

Won't answer a simple question.


Sad

Can't interpret simple data.

Dunce.

 

[Dogwide]

Great Scott!
Brussels has roughly 65% non nationals in prison.
15% general population.
What's happening there!!
Although it's from 2020 and telephone interviews were part of the methodology so it's obviously totally biased.

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/The-Foreign-National-Prison-Population-in-Belgium-Foreign-national-prison-population_tbl1_335756103