A honda 50 weighs 75 kg and can do 80km/h
A bicycle weighs approx 15 kg and can do about 30km/h
Allowing for the fact that the person on both is the same weight, how does your theory work again?
pwnt? Haw, haw, haw. You've just shot yerself in the foot there fellah. It's the velocity squared. So the velocity is the dominant factor.
I didn't discount mass m (v)squared. You seem to be suggesting that 14stone man doing say 20kph versus some 7 stone doing 40kph have equal momentum? They don't
A honda 50 weighs 75 kg and can do 80km/h
A bicycle weighs approx 15 kg and can do about 30km/h
Allowing for the fact that the person on both is the same weight, how does your theory work again?
My bike weighs under 7kg, I'll have you know.
A honda 50 weighs 75 kg and can do 80km/h
A bicycle weighs approx 15 kg and can do about 30km/h
Allowing for the fact that the person on both is the same weight, how does your theory work again?
As I explained earlier, it's to do with the speed through the lights. You were trying to discount any consequences of cyclist going through the lights. I was saying that someone crawling through the lights on a Honda 50 could potentailly cause less damage than someone gunning through on a pushbike. Thus the question is raised should the Honda 50 driver be permitted crawl through the lights with minimal likely consequences - or is it the fact that it's a motorised vehicle that would have you say it shouldn't be allowed break the lights.
Going on your "doesn't cause harm" bs then someone on a Honda 50 should be OK to go through the odd traffic light because it doesn't cause harm. Where do you draw the line then? I think it should be that all road users obey the rules of the road - you appear to be suggesting the rules of the road should only apply to motorised vehicles. Is that what you're saying?
Stall the ball there. You can't seriously be suggesting that cyclists breaking red lights isn't dangerous but chiding other road users for doing the same. Either bikes are entitled to be on the road or they're not (I think they are). But if they're on the road they should obey the rules of the road.
Going on your "doesn't cause harm" bs then someone on a Honda 50 should be OK to go through the odd traffic light because it doesn't cause harm. Where do you draw the line then? I think it should be that all road users obey the rules of the road - you appear to be suggesting the rules of the road should only apply to motorised vehicles. Is that what you're saying?
Is that the sound of some furious back peddling I hear? (pun intended)
Heres the direct quote I responded to:
what's with the irish middle aged full gear tour de france martyrs riding two abreast on small roads? single file you ignorant scum!
WTF?
A honda 50 has the potential to travel up to 80km/h and weighs more than a bike
A bike has the potential to travel up to say 30km/h under normal circumstances and weighs significantly less than a Honda 50
Therefore, the potential to inflict serious or fatal injuries on someone else is massively different.. surely this is beyond dispute?
