Cork Hurlers - Part 2

[Twiceasnice97]

Its not easy to get hard workers through the cork system.
The numbers are enormous so you are mostly deciding between 3 or 4 lads who can really hurl in most spots at underage.

The fringes of your panels are not filled in with honest lads who arent good enough, they know that, but are not willing to give up so they are maybe 40 to 50 on an under 14, 30 to 40 on 15s making B teams at 16s because the 7 best sixteens are gone to minor
getting a game wing forward on a celtic challenge team and by 19 you have a 6 ft 2 bull of a lad on the under 20s between 5 and 12 hand passing the ball to tony Kelly or Cian lynch

Galway are similar. Kilkenny are the original's of working lads through , their population is very small so they are getting more of that.

I dont know how you rectify that and hopefully cork dont either naturally

 

[The Dagda]

this is an outstanding proposal to win the match
Pick 16 lads but put two of them wearing no 9. Maybe the second 9 should be a barrys tea jersey

You didn't notice that I also cloned Fitzy as well?
After seeing the way Clare shat the bed against Limerick I thought it was time Cork thought outside the box.
Nice to see I got to you with my previous comments anyway TAN.
Ye cousin lovers are fierce easy to wind up. It's probably the extra chromosome.

 

[Twiceasnice97]

You didn't notice that I also cloned Fitzy as well?
After seeing the way Clare shat the bed against Limerick I thought it was time Cork thought outside the box.
Nice to see I got to you with my previous comments anyway TAN.
Ye cousin lovers are fierce easy to wind up. It's probably the extra chromosome.

which comments were those that got to me?

 

[UpCork123]

It's baffling to me how lads have Harnedy on the bench after his performance against Clare.

Damien Cahalane anywhere other than 3 (I'd have E Downey there) just will not work. Thankfully the selectors are not made of the Barrs segment of PROC.

I wouldn't make too many changes. Millerick to come in at half back with Tommy/Tim in midfield and Fitz moved up to 11. Hayes makes way.

 

[The Dagda]

I think if our top players aren’t used to being tested physically at club level then they will always struggle at senior inter county. I don’t have the answers on how to change the culture tbh.

The first step was to make the championship competitive again with relegation a real threat. That has finally occurred but it will take years to take effect.
Next step is to sort out the refs from juvenile up. It starts with kids being whistled at for everything and goes all the way up to adults and senior level. This rot wouldn't have been allowed anywhere else but in a county with a referee as dictator for nearly 50 years who removed the threat of relegation for his mates.

 

[TheOutdoorThreadmill]

You didn't notice that I also cloned Fitzy as well?
After seeing the way Clare shat the bed against Limerick I thought it was time Cork thought outside the box.
Nice to see I got to you with my previous comments anyway TAN.
Ye cousin lovers are fierce easy to wind up. It's probably the extra chromosome.

Ah cmon Daggie it was a bit of Banteer, no need to bring up about the cousin lovers, they prefer that wouldn’t be spoken of and kept in house

 

[The Dagda]

which comments were those that got to me?

You tell me.
Actually scratch that, since you were incapable of seeing Darraghs name down twice on my team, then reading comprehension is probably not a core skill for you.

 

[Killyoursons]

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Its not easy to get hard workers through the cork system.
The numbers are enormous so you are mostly deciding between 3 or 4 lads who can really hurl in most spots at underage.

The fringes of your panels are not filled in with honest lads who arent good enough, they know that, but are not willing to give up so they are maybe 40 to 50 on an under 14, 30 to 40 on 15s making B teams at 16s because the 7 best sixteens are gone to minor
getting a game wing forward on a celtic challenge team and by 19 you have a 6 ft 2 bull of a lad on the under 20s between 5 and 12 hand passing the ball to tony Kelly or Cian lynch

Galway are similar. Kilkenny are the original's of working lads through , their population is very small so they are getting more of that.

I dont know how you rectify that and hopefully cork dont either naturally

Sorry, just to clarify - are you saying the fringes if Cork underage panels are or are not filled with lads who aren't good enough but who are not willing to give up?

Also, you mention the Celtic Challenge - I think that's a great tournament but are there many examples (from any county) of players making an impact there and subsequently breaking onto the county U20 team?

 

[The Dagda]

Our lads have never lacked hurling ability. Thats part of why we’ve done so well at U20 in the last 7 years, physicality not so important at that level. Our struggle is producing players who can not only play hurling at a top level but can also take the hits and dish a few out too. Not easy I concede.

Different code I know but in the Munster final, The Clare no 7 went through the middle for a goal, took a hit at the end and was knocked off his feet. Didn't look for a free but bounced up and kicked a goal. I doubt he could have bought a free in Clare growing up. As a result the thought of getting a free didn't even enter his mind. Until we have that mentality in our players at club level at all levels from junior b up we are on a hiding to nothing.

 

[Grasshopper]

I think the point wasn’t the analysis, that was spot on about the goal but not the importance of puck outs. It was the fact that no other pundit on TSG consistently uses the platform to take pot shots at their own county just to create sound bites and boast their own profile. Every Cork player and supporter are hurting after first two games and can do without national ridicule

We'll have to agree to disagree, if the analysis was correct the identity of the messager shouldn't matter, say what you want about Cusack, he's opinionated but can't be accused of being watery like a lot of the other analysts. Sure he has an ego and etc. but so what, he has his all Ireland's won, and you can be sure if that happened on the team he was part of, Kenny, Curran, O'Halpin, and Gardner would have bust a gut to get back in, and Niall /Timmy Mc would have at least slowed Diarmuid Ryan down. Its a bit more of that attitude that the team need and hopefully they will develop, but supporters acting like a shower of Karen's complaining about toxic comments isn't going to help.