Bus Eireann.

[Stacky]

The Fatima Mansions.

Apologies.

Before my time and always get mixed up with those Cork bands.

The High llamas were another one from that set up?

 

[andtherestinjellys]

Plus the latest is you can get one for your carer so half the train to Dublin is taken up by pensioners and their friends.

I wouldn't be losing too much sleep I'd say they do ok with their fucking 80 quid return off everyone else.

 

[Blueswannabe]

No, it's not something ALL of them can afford. And, for the record, they didn't keep all their allowances during the recession either.
€50 mightn't be much to you or me but to those whose only income is the retirement pension, it could be a lot. In any case, if it were to start at €50, it wouldn't stay there.
On the other hand, there are some well-heeled pensioners (although it's a moot point as to how often they might use their free travel card).
So why not treat it as a benefit-in-kind, making it potentially taxable? Each pensioner could be given an initial allowance of so much free travel and thereafter, it could be chargeable to taxation. The technology exists to gather the information too.
This would not affect those on very low incomes as they'd not be liable to tax.

Bull f**king shit, it's amazing that all the OAP's I ever heard complain about not having enough money for the gas, lpt etc, when they popped their clogs had generous wills. I would be highly surprised if any mentally and physically able to travel alone OAPs out there couldn't afford 50 euro a year for unlimited country wide travel.

I do like your benefit-in-kind solution though.

Btw those going 'well clearly BÉ isn't efficient enough' because it can't compete on Intercity routes, totally miss the fact it's a PUBLIC service, BÉ serve small rural parishes that are making HUGE losses year on year but as a society we decided to do so, so when the country ages we should realise, it's going to get more expensive to keep doing so as there are less paying 'customers' for these services.

 

[sigourney's knickers]

Apologies.

Before my time and always get mixed up with those Cork bands.

The High llamas were another one from that set up?

Yeah, Seanie was a member of Microdisney.

 

[bells of shandon]

Bus Eireann is State owned, It is a Public Service, running on many routes to remote areas which are unprofitable.
As per usual the Govt would like to give it away to the Privateers. So they deliberately underfund it and create Labour problems with its work force.
The Newspapers then exploit this as inefficiency to promote privatisation.
This is a well worn tactic, used in the UK to sell off State enterprise.
Transport is a necessity in the modern State. £6million loss is peanuts compared to the billions given away to the Banks as a bail-out.
State owned Transport should be a break-even, after taking into account, maintenance and replacement overheads.
At present ,the State owned Bus System is keeping the Private Bus Service from gouging the public.
We are undergoing the same form of crisis in our Housing System.There is insufficient Local Authority Housing to keep the private landlords from rent gouging.
The UK has a totally privatised Transport system and is the most expensive in Europe.
Denis O'Brien is slavering at the prospect of bidding on our Road and Rail Network and his newspapers and Radio stations will promote privatisations.

 

[BBJ]

Bus Eireann is State owned, It is a Public Service, running on many routes to remote areas which are unprofitable.
As per usual the Govt would like to give it away to the Privateers. So they deliberately underfund it and create Labour problems with its work force.
The Newspapers then exploit this as inefficiency to promote privatisation.
This is a well worn tactic, used in the UK to sell off State enterprise.
Transport is a necessity in the modern State. £6million loss is peanuts compared to the billions given away to the Banks as a bail-out.
State owned Transport should be a break-even, after taking into account, maintenance and replacement overheads.
At present ,the State owned Bus System is keeping the Private Bus Service from gouging the public.
We are undergoing the same form of crisis in our Housing System.There is insufficient Local Authority Housing to keep the private landlords from rent gouging.
The UK has a totally privatised Transport system and is the most expensive in Europe. Denis O'Brien is slavering at the prospect of bidding on our Road and Rail Network and his newspapers and Radio stations will promote privatisations.

Well said.
Another tactic is to float the notion that if only we could get those pesky pensioners to pay their way, then all would be well.

 

[jeepers]

Well said.
Another tactic is to float the nation that if only we could get those pesky pensioners to pay their way, then all would be well.

Best idea yet. Should we go for multiple listings? If we're going to be all patriotic about it and float in Dublin, we should have at least a London listing as well, and I think you'd have plenty of subscribers in the states if we were on NYSE as well. We should raise a fortune, billionaires on paper.

We could borrow against that and stick it on Anglo and then...Oh, hang on...

 

[Meridian]

Expressway has multiple stops off the motorway , Aircoach none. Is that correct ?.

That is a Bus Eireann decision, as I said it is the commercial arm of their company that is costing them a fortune.
There is nothing stopping them from offering a direct Dublin/ Cork service non stop just like Aircoach do.
They operate a lot of PSO routes on behalf of NTA and if the NBRU are not careful with their criticism of NTA, then they might let private operators run these routes and therefore BE loose out again.

It is only a matter of time before city routes have to be tendered out to private contractors as per European competition law and it will once again BE being squeezed, why because of the unions asking and getting too much from the employer over the years.

 

[Drunken Paddy]

Being predominantly middle class, nothing about bus eireann or any form of public transport, concerns me in the slightest

 

[collapsedfaceman]

Microdisney has a great song "Only losers take the bus"?

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Poor stacky..you'll be getting your free bus pass in a few years sure....of course you don't use it. #pwnt