Batsh*t Crazy Green Party

[jank]

its not the cost for me i want an EV that when fully charged will last for 1300 km +

No ICE car is going to do 1300km+
But I bet you own a car regardless.

 

[BoggyRoad]

Saw the new Prius lately. The design is much nicer. 71km rated range on electric is fairly low all the same I think.

 

[danielthelanger]

Read the post I quoted you replying
To
There was no claim bar the Luas was dangerous

The claim was that driving was safer than riding a LUAS.

 

[Crankycorner]

Is death the only consequence you
need to decide on what is safe or not.

Not worth replying to that fool.

 

[Padraig Mor]

its not the cost for me i want an EV that when fully charged will last for 1300 km +

If you regularly do 1300km in a day an EV is not for you. I would suggest however that such usage is very atypical and not representative of the average motorist. I'm above average at about 2000km a month and I have no issues. Other than one Dublin-and-back-in-a-day trip last year I haven't even fast charged in years (I'm in the game long enough that I used get it for free). A home charger is a must though - Tesla aside, public charging costs are a disgrace.

It should be noted as well that, despite appearances having owned four EVs, I am not in any way an eco warrior and my ownership of them comes down to the costs and drive - they really are buttons to run, and most go like the clappers. Last car before EV was a 3 litre petrol and I do find my eyes drawn to Audi S8s (4 litre twin turbo petrol) on Carzone these days...... sticking with the EV for the moment though!

An example: the BYD Seal AWD (which is a lovely looking car, with a fantastic interior, much better than Tesla) can be yours for ~€50k on the road. That yoke has 530bhp on tap and four wheel drive - it will leave a BMW M5 in the dust yet costs less than half the price (and that's before you get to the running costs). Insane value for money! Your average VW Tiguan is bones of 50 grand these days FFS. If they'd been around when I was buying last year I'd have found it very hard to say no.

 

[Blue Jasmin]

The BYDs are notorious for spontaneously self combusting, best avoided.

 

[jank]

Read the post I quoted you replying
To
There was no claim bar the Luas was dangerous

So what are people afraid of?
Is it some drunk dude mouthing off? Is that dangerous? Or are people being snobs from not wanting to mix with the great unwashed, so that justifies spending 50k on a new car?

The facts are in terms of overall danger, you have a much greater chance of dying or being seriously injured in a car than on a LUAS. That is the undeniable fact here.
Feelings aside.

 

[PROCNA2018]

So what are people afraid of?
Is it some drunk dude mouthing off? Is that dangerous? Or are people being snobs from not wanting to mix with the great unwashed, so that justifies spending 50k on a new car?

The facts are in terms of overall danger, you have a much greater chance of dying or being seriously injured in a car than on a LUAS. That is the undeniable fact here.
Feelings aside.

It's like your position on cyclists.
You simply will not accept anything you disagree with.
I've travelled on it probably.10 times since Christmas from Heuston to Connolly. I'm about 5'10 and 16 St. I don't feel safe on it and am constantly watching all round me. The real scary thing is I see primary school kids getting on on their own. Staggering.

 

[Blue Jasmin]

The last time I was on the Luas was over 10 years ago and it was intimidating then, I can just imagine what it's like now, you're in confined space with people who are uninhibited and potentially volatile. No thanks.

 

[jank]

The real scary thing is I see primary school kids getting on on their own.

Yet they all survived unscathed. Imagine that!

Just admit it that ye are a bit of a snowflake in all this.

If you think the LUAS is dangerous try public transport in actual dangerous places like Colombia, Ecuador or Brazil. It puts things into perspective and while the LUAS can attract the odd idiot, the fact it, it's not near as dangerous as people make it out to be and certainly not as dangerous to travel by car instead.

The whole debate started with a comment on the Cork LUAS by the way, where some poster proclaimed it as dangerous, even though the thing doest even have planning permission yet.