The County Board Complaints Thread

[ThatFella]

Do you value the medal you won as only 6th class boy unused as a sub in the Sciath na Scoil final while 5th class boys played, and your parents and grandparents came to the big event. I doubt it.

I can’t comment for how it feels as I don’t know how it feels.

You also don’t know how it feels, you doubt it as you say which is respect.

I acknowledge that Some lads will be very disappointed and upset other lads will be happy with a medal.
Again my example refers to 15/20 years ago when underage at clubs was also a disgrace with exclusion and segregation of A and B teams.
I think people are very caught up on the now.
The example used was 15/20 years ago as I say.
I’m allowed have an opinion and acknowledge and respect people’s point while saying fair play to what happened 15/20 years ago. It wouldn’t be fair play today.
But back then that teacher was honest. Play it whatever way you and others want to.

 

[TheRebelRoar]

I absolutely grasp the problem.
I asked a question. I also gave my opinion.
I gave examples of other sports and what they do.
I gave examples of the cons of the GO Games such as players now cannot deal with not playing at older ages of 15 plus. I’ve seen it with my own eyes. These players can’t grasp competition and not playing cause they’re used to playing the whole way up (which as from my examples I completely agree with they should all play at least a half)

But I also acknowledge your point so with that, my point of competition also refers to the competition of getting a starting position and not just a the result .

Why would you not 'acknowledge his point'?

You can cut all the 'I see your point/acknowledge your point' out of your posts as it means exactly nothing.


Saying that you can't focus on participation upto 14 as players can't cope afterwards is patent nonsense .

 

[ThatFella]

Lol you're one of these 'I agree with you but' merchants.

2nd year of post primary is plenty of time for there to be the start of competitive games.
Prior to that work on participation and enjoyment.

You seem to be in a right tizzy because your teacher 'pal' hadn't a clue about coaching kids.

I’m allowed to have my opinion of back then while also having one now, I’m not a “but” merchant.

I’ve no idea who the teacher was to be honest or what school it was, I heard it through a family member.

Fair play to the teacher 20 years ago for being honest, now a days with Go Games and inclusion and so forth it wouldn’t happen.

 

[ThatFella]

Why would you not 'acknowledge his point'?

You can cut all the 'I see your point/acknowledge your point' out of your posts as it means exactly nothing.


Saying that you can't focus on participation upto 14 as players can't cope afterwards is patent nonsense .

So my own personal coaching experience is nonsense cause you don’t agree with it. Ok pal.

Hopefully you never have that coaching experience.

 

[TheRebelRoar]

I’m allowed to have my opinion of back then while also having one now, I’m not a “but” merchant.

I’ve no idea who the teacher was to be honest or what school it was, I heard it through a family member.

Fair play to the teacher 20 years ago for being honest, now a days with Go Games and inclusion and so forth it wouldn’t happen.

So you present a third hand anecdote and get all bent out of shape as most people don't agree with it.


Cool.

 

[TheOutdoorThreadmill]

This thread has turned in lol gold dust. Fair play

 

[peopleluas]

You also don’t know how it feels.

I've a pretty good idea how it feels, cos it happened in our school to a child I know very well. The child and mine played soccer in the same club. Soccer training was on the night before the Sciath Na School final and us parents used to share taking them (it being a good few miles away). That night the boy decided not to go to soccer so as to be best prepared for the school final the following day. My fella went to soccer anyway. Both in 6th class.

We all went into PUR the following day. Massive occasion. My fellow got his game, but the other boy, who had played in the matches all along, was not played - and 5th class boys were played. Teacher wanted to win, it being a final and all.

The boy was devastated, and the parents weren't far off. None of 'em let on, all smiles and all until back in the car on the way home. I of course knew, so I kind of sympathized (with the mother - not in the presence of anybody else) the next time we met. The parents had considered going into the teacher to complain, but in so so many things the teacher is a fantastic teacher and is very good to his pupils so they decided to let it slide and not complain to the teacher (I would have done the same).

Even without that experience, I have a good idea. I was once that age myself, and I raised children through that age. I can't fathom where some of ye are coming from on this issue in this thread, but like a lot of things I have to accept that other people have very different views to mine and "right" and "wrong" are relative human-derived concepts that evolve over time and culture.

I appreciate that you rationally discuss the issue - we have some on this thread who just ridicule, name-call, etc. - but we all know their track record in that regard and it's just a pity that they distract from whatever rational case they may have which we might otherwise better-consider.

 

[Keeks]

I absolutely grasp the problem.
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But I also acknowledge your point so with that, my point of competition also refers to the competition of getting a starting position and not just a the result .

I am still not sure you do grasp the problem, but I definitely don't grasp what you mean by you last comment here.
When does competition for a stating position not mean that coaches are more focused on the result than participation time?

And just for the record U12 way too young to be focused on Competition.....

 

[Keeks]

All this chat brought something that I read years ago to my mind.....ignore the publication or county etc......just read the story......I would guess there is one in every club

Open Letter - A young player's view

Following on from a recent Live95 radio interview about the mental stress placed on young kids in sport, which our Sports Editor Donn O'Sullivan took part in, he was contacted by a young hurler from Limerick to tell his story. The two spoke at length about the player's experiences and those of...

www.limerickleader.ie

 

[Random boi]

All this chat brought something that I read years ago to my mind.....ignore the publication or county etc......just read the story......I would guess there is one in every club

Open Letter - A young player's view

Following on from a recent Live95 radio interview about the mental stress placed on young kids in sport, which our Sports Editor Donn O'Sullivan took part in, he was contacted by a young hurler from Limerick to tell his story. The two spoke at length about the player's experiences and those of...

www.limerickleader.ie

I would see a lot of my own experiences in this and still feel the effects of the psychological damage it did to me to this day. Thankfully it seems to be less of an issue nowadays but still a long ways to go to completely eradicate the problem.