Russia's unjustifiable war of aggression in Ukraine

[King Silkbeard]

I thought Russia had annexed territory now in the hands of Ukraine?
That means according to dingbats like yourself Ukraine is in control of large tracts of Russian territory.

No it is not because Ukraine has failed in its counter offensive they launched drones into Russian terrigory but theg have not changed the frontlines. They remain under Russian control.

 

[catcha]

Russia all has to do is defend territory gained

hold on a minute, was that you claiming that russia "only protected their land and people"? Where this "gains" rhetoric came from now?

either way, would you be so kind and list the factors which prove that the russia is winning? Is it control and stabilization on invaded and occupied land? Are those stunning military successes of the ru army? Maybe control over the Black Sea? Or lets go from another angle, is it the ROI of the ru side making it a success? You know the number of lost lives and equipment, lost international position, income, economy in shambles, sanctions, lost credibility, internal issues, recession. Please share you pint of view on why you claim russia is winning, I must be blinded with their success apparently and see nothing

Just technically, want to remind you that the "territorial gains" being under ru control right now are the effect of UA withdrawing from there in the first days of the three day operation.

 

[catcha]

Czech magazine - Reflex, has posted some suggestions on ru Olympic outfits:

The Olympic Committee did not refuse russian and belarussian athletes to participate in next year's Olympics. Russians and Belarusians who qualify in their sport for the Paris 2024 Olympics can take part as neutrals without flags, emblems or anthems at the event next year, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) said on Friday.

In response to the IOC decision on Friday, World Athletics (WA) said: "All athletes, support personnel and officials from Russia and Belarus are excluded from all World Athletics Series events, and from hosting any International or European athletics events.

"We will continue to monitor the situation but unless there is a major change in circumstances between now and the Olympic Games, this exclusion will apply to Paris 2024.

"It is the IOC’s remit to decide which countries are invited to participate at the Olympic Games, but it is the responsibility of the IFs (international federations) to decide which athletes within their sport are eligible to compete."

At August’s World Championships in Budapest, WA president Sebastian Coe said it would have been "inconceivable" for Russians and Belarusians to have competed, saying that the ban was for "reasons of integrity".

https://www.reuters.com/sports/russian-belarusian-athletes-participate-paris-olympics-neutrals-ioc-2023-12-08

 

[King Silkbeard]

hold on a minute, was that you claiming that russia "only protected their land and people"? Where this "gains" rhetoric came from now?

either way, would you be so kind and list the factors which prove that the russia is winning? Is it control and stabilization on invaded and occupied land? Are those stunning military successes of the ru army? Maybe control over the Black Sea? Or lets go from another angle, is it the ROI of the ru side making it a success? You know the number of lost lives and equipment, lost international position, income, economy in shambles, sanctions, lost credibility, internal issues, recession. Please share you pint of view on why you claim russia is winning, I must be blinded with their success apparently and see nothing

Just technically, want to remind you that the "territorial gains" being under ru control right now are the effect of UA withdrawing from there in the first days of the three day operation.

The sanctions are not working the EU is in recession. Russia is doing fine there is no overthrow of the Russian gvt, there was much talk about Russian aims to either take over all of Ukraine and expand into neighbouring NATO countries or end the violence the Azov Nazis were perpetrating against Russian speakers in Crimea and the Donbass.

Russia has successfully absored the new territory into the Russian Federation and Kiev is begging for money from fractured Western allies. Russia still has plenty in the tank and can call for peace at any time while Ukraine has sold this war as a battle between Western civilisation and the evil East.

 

[Channa]

The sanctions are not working the EU is in recession. Russia is doing fine there is no overthrow of the Russian gvt, there was much talk about Russian aims to either take over all of Ukraine and expand into neighbouring NATO countries or end the violence the Azov Nazis were perpetrating against Russian speakers in Crimea and the Donbass.

Russia has successfully absored the new territory into the Russian Federation and Kiev is begging for money from fractured Western allies. Russia still has plenty in the tank and can call for peace at any time while Ukraine has sold this war as a battle between Western civilisation and the evil East.

According to the New York Times, Russia has lost 54% of the land it took at the start of their invasion. Or unsuccessfully absorbed as you might say.

 

[BoggyRoad]

According to the New York Times, Russia has lost 54% of the land it took at the start of their invasion. Or unsuccessfully absorbed as you might say.

No matter what though, its stalemate now right. Ukraine will run out of necessary arms support, Russia will continue to pound. Best thing now it get them to the negotiation table. If Ukraine support diminishes then Russia will railroad through with nothing to stop them at that stage.
Why would this not be the most likely scenario right now?

 

[King Silkbeard]

According to the New York Times, Russia has lost 54% of the land it took at the start of their invasion. Or unsuccessfully absorbed as you might say.

Not allowed report on Ukraine losses though,

 

[catcha]

Why would this not be the most likely scenario right now?

If support would stop, this is the most likely scenario. That is no secret from day 1 really.

 

[King Silkbeard]

If support would stop, this is the most likely scenario. That is no secret from day 1 really.

How you can't see the sanctions failed is beyond me. EU is in recession didn't expect that after imposing harsh sanctions on Russia but there you go. Russian Pres getting a nice welcome in the UAE and Saudi Arabia, treated like royalty.

 

[catcha]

The sanctions are not working the EU is in recession.

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/sanctions/restrictive-measures-against-russia-over-ukraine/sanctions-against-russia-explained/

What a success!

Russia is doing fine there is no overthrow of the Russian gvt,

there was much talk about Russian aims to either take over all of Ukraine and expand into neighbouring NATO countries

Wonder why Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland have closed the borders to russian scum and their puppet.
And the total failure of overtaking UA government in three day long operation is not a topic any more it seems xD and it was so beautiful, there was already a plan to celebrate it in Feb last year xDDD

or end the violence the Azov Nazis were perpetrating against Russian speakers in Crimea and the Donbass.

??? Azov in Crimea? I must have missed that big time! Tell us more!
Donbass is occupied by orcs since 2014, would be hard to see them there boss... But they are clearly visible wherever orcs are being pounded:

and btw. you meant those guys?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1725188716858126796

I have more, you want to watch how they treat the orcish invaders?

Russia has successfully absored the new territory into the Russian Federation

define success

and Kiev is begging for money from fractured Western allies.

since before the war really. What's your point here? You wanted to position it against russia begging for ammo North Koreans, or begging Iranians for drones and missiles?

Russia still has plenty in the tank and can call for peace at any time while Ukraine has sold this war as a battle between Western civilisation and the evil East.

source needed
like about these tanks, mate. Share some sources as satellite pictures do not confirm this, and also they have so plenty, they are now trying to reintroduce the lines for building T72 tanks. You are an absolute ignorant on this topic, so let me just paste the visual confirmed russian loses from Oryx project:

Russia - 13370, of which: destroyed: 9299, damaged: 601, abandoned: 564, captured: 2906​

of which:

Tanks (2526, of which destroyed: 1654, damaged: 141, abandoned: 183, captured: 548)​

here, click it through, each has a photographic evidence:

Attack On Europe: Documenting Russian Equipment Losses During The Russian Invasion Of Ukraine

www.oryxspioenkop.com

russia has no capacity for any symmetric war right now. They did not have really any capacity against NATO any way at no stage...

East is evil, the russian East indeed. Ukraine is suffering because they decided to leave the mafia ring of criminal russian influence.

You are full of shit

PS. oryx also documents UA loses

How you can't see the sanctions failed is beyond me. EU is in recession didn't expect that after imposing harsh sanctions on Russia but there you go. Russian Pres getting a nice welcome in the UAE and Saudi Arabia, treated like royalty.

well it is and was always, and will be beyond you - agree.

and you confused UAE with Saudis the circus was in UAE, Sauds kept the regular protocol. But how would you know...