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No drop in hospitality vat rate. Restaurant body, hotels and Vintners assoc up in arms. Say 1000 businesses to close.
Let them complain all they want, listening to Cormac O'Hara haranguing Pascal today on the radio about that issue and saying that Adrian Cummins was raging about it made me want to fling the wireless across the room, Cummins is an industry lobbyist, of course he's going to be jumping up and down if he doesn't get his way, that's his way of letting his members see that he's doing his job, same as all the other self important lobbyists who think they have the right to dictate government policy.

O'Hara was acting like their spokesman, the little sh*t.

All the comments about the smoking ban harming the pub trade have been bookmarked for IOTY btw.
 
Let them complain all they want, listening to Cormac O'Hara haranguing Pascal today on the radio about that issue and saying that Adrian Cummins was raging about it made me want to fling the wireless across the room, Cummins is an industry lobbyist, of course he's going to be jumping up and down if he doesn't get his way, that's his way of letting his members see that he's doing his job, same as all the other self important lobbyists who think they have the right to dictate government policy.

O'Hara was acting like their spokesman, the little sh*t.

All the comments about the smoking ban harming the pub trade have been bookmarked for IOTY btw.
Bonkers to blame the smoking ban, I was a regular in town saturday and sunday nights up to 2012 , Pubs, clubs, takeaways all very busy, this was post ban, Peoples habits have changed, Sundays now see people out at 3pm and home by 8pm
 
Bonkers to blame the smoking ban, I was a regular in town saturday and sunday nights up to 2012 , Pubs, clubs, takeaways all very busy, this was post ban, Peoples habits have changed, Sundays now see people out at 3pm and home by 8pm
There are other places than cities.
I'm mainly talking about those.
Personal experience.
 
Let them complain all they want, listening to Cormac O'Hara haranguing Pascal today on the radio about that issue and saying that Adrian Cummins was raging about it made me want to fling the wireless across the room, Cummins is an industry lobbyist, of course he's going to be jumping up and down if he doesn't get his way, that's his way of letting his members see that he's doing his job, same as all the other self important lobbyists who think they have the right to dictate government policy.

O'Hara was acting like their spokesman, the little sh*t.

All the comments about the smoking ban harming the pub trade have been bookmarked for IOTY btw.
The lobbyist represents the views of his members. He is losing members at an unprecedented rate so he's entitled to jump up and down. That's his job in the same way it's Jack Chambers to put the governments argument across. Costs are gone ridiculous in hospitality. It's not like he's representing some gang of cunts like tobacco.
 
Let them complain all they want, listening to Cormac O'Hara haranguing Pascal today on the radio about that issue and saying that Adrian Cummins was raging about it made me want to fling the wireless across the room, Cummins is an industry lobbyist, of course he's going to be jumping up and down if he doesn't get his way, that's his way of letting his members see that he's doing his job, same as all the other self important lobbyists who think they have the right to dictate government policy.

O'Hara was acting like their spokesman, the little sh*t.

All the comments about the smoking ban harming the pub trade have been bookmarked for IOTY btw.
Yeah this is one issue they have stuck to their guns on despite all the guff and spin we've been subjected to over the last months. As if they were going to pass on the 4.5 % anyway. Ditto on oheadhra by the way. He has gone from being a decent late night presenter to a self opinionated boor in jig time.
 
Also the elephant in the room here is coke.

I’ve nearly 20 apprentices on the books between 18 and 24 and 75% of them would be very open about using coke every weekend. These lads would be playing GAA and soccer to a decent local level.


It’s absolutely rife.

There’s no real stigma attached to it in their eyes. They’d sooner have 5 or 6 lines and a few bottles than have a dozen pints and then go top shelf like we did in our day.

Know a good few publicans and they’d say while the pub looks busy the youngfellas don’t put much behind the bar.
Repped. Was socialising with a group recently, mainly primary school teachers in their thirties, all from rural backgrounds, lovely girl/boy types. All living in Cork.

One of them pulled out a bag of coke and they were all queuing up to do a line without considering some of us mightnt approve or that it might change or view of them. Amazing how normalized it has become.

What struck me was the conversation beforehand. A very sympathetic view on the plight of Palestinians and people from other poor countries, but no connection made between the coke they went on to snort and the millions of people in south America whose countries are riddled with violence, intimidation and corruption because of western middle class demand for cocaine. Not to mention drug related violence here in Ireland among working class communities.

There was a guy there too who is a member of a left wing party and loves to preach about the working man (he's not elected or in the public eye).

He was first in line for the coke. The country is riddled with cocaine.
 
Repped. Was socialising with a group recently, mainly primary school teachers in their thirties, all from rural backgrounds, lovely girl/boy types. All living in Cork.

One of them pulled out a bag of coke and they were all queuing up to do a line without considering some of us mightnt approve or that it might change or view of them. Amazing how normalized it has become.

What struck me was the conversation beforehand. A very sympathetic view on the plight of Palestinians and people from other poor countries, but no connection made between the coke they went on to snort and the millions of people in south America whose countries are riddled with violence, intimidation and corruption because of western middle class demand for cocaine. Not to mention drug related violence here in Ireland among working class communities.

There was a guy there too who is a member of a left wing party and loves to preach about the working man (he's not elected or in the public eye).

He was first in line for the coke. The country is riddled with cocaine.
The majority of teachers don't live in the real world. They've usually failed in what the really want to do in life before deciding on becoming a teacher.
 
Repped. Was socialising with a group recently, mainly primary school teachers in their thirties, all from rural backgrounds, lovely girl/boy types. All living in Cork.

One of them pulled out a bag of coke and they were all queuing up to do a line without considering some of us mightnt approve or that it might change or view of them. Amazing how normalized it has become.

What struck me was the conversation beforehand. A very sympathetic view on the plight of Palestinians and people from other poor countries, but no connection made between the coke they went on to snort and the millions of people in south America whose countries are riddled with violence, intimidation and corruption because of western middle class demand for cocaine. Not to mention drug related violence here in Ireland among working class communities.

There was a guy there too who is a member of a left wing party and loves to preach about the working man (he's not elected or in the public eye).

He was first in line for the coke. The country is riddled with cocaine.
I can imagine one of the teachers teaching 1st class, Well class, Sarah and her two friends share a bag of coke, what fraction of the bag
do they get each if shared equally?
 
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