Cork Hurlers - Part 2

[SoundMan]

A tame capitulation in a semi final would be their level

Don't see them giving Limerick an easy game in the Munster Final if it comes to it tbh - after that I think they'll still be in the shake up - as will we hopefully.

 

[Bronxrebel]

I just don't get your necessity to move Downey from 6 where he's had two stormers in back-to-back must-win games providing a great balance with those around him. If Joyce is to come back as a starter can he not slot in somewhere else given how he's allegedly such a superstar unless and until Downey has a poor game at 6 ????

My God the overreaction is breath taking. Now Downey had two stormers. He played well. Again it wasn’t some unbelievable Cork defensive performance against Limerick and Tipp is plain awful. He was asleep to start both games btw. You can argue he played a major role in Tipp even being close to Cork at half. How does that half look without the goal he played a major role allowing?

Is Joyce a superstar? Guess it depends on your criteria. There was absolutely no one on the planet rating Downey ahead of him a couple weeks ago. Two games later the guy cannot be moved from center back. This mentality is bizarre.

 

[stevetharlear]

We’ve looked more secure at 6 the last 2 games than the first 2 games. CJ wasn’t unreal there by any stretch of anyones imagination against either Waterford or Clare. And if you’re cherry picking goals that lads were at fault for, where was CJ for Barrons goal and do you think Barron would’ve got that goal if Rob Downey was playing centre back?

 

[Bronxrebel]

We’ve looked more secure at 6 the last 2 games than the first 2 games. CJ wasn’t unreal there by any stretch of anyones imagination against either Waterford or Clare. And if you’re cherry picking goals that lads were at fault for, where was CJ for Barrons goal and do you think Barron would’ve got that goal if Rob Downey was playing centre back?

I’m mentioning those instances because you would think Downey walks on water around here. I like Rob Downey. He’s done a nice job. He’s not the player Joyce is at 6. No one would’ve even suggested it two weeks ago for a reason. Two very good games does not change that Joyce has been excellent at 6 for two years. Downey is a good player. He should have a role. He’s not the player Joyce is at 6. If you wanna argue the team is better with Downey at 6 because he’s not as good at 5 so be it. Don’t tell me he’s better than Joyce. This place has a massive bout of short term memory.

 

[TheOutdoorThreadmill]

I’m mentioning those instances because you would think Downey walks on water around here. I like Rob Downey. He’s done a nice job. He’s not the player Joyce is at 6. No one would’ve even suggested it two weeks ago for a reason. Two very good games does not change that Joyce has been excellent at 6 for two years. Downey is a good player. He should have a role. He’s not the player Joyce is at 6. If you wanna argue the team is better with Downey at 6 because he’s not as good at 5 so be it. Don’t tell me he’s better than Joyce. This place has a massive bout of short term memory.

That's quite funny considering anyone reading your posts would think Joyce walks on water.
The simple fact is we have had 4 games, Joyce was CB for 2, RD was CB for 2, who played better? Tbh there is only one answer so RD stays at 6. They player in form keeps the jersey, it's quite simple really.

 

[Bronxrebel]

Likelihood is there will be more knocks and injuries so no point worrying about it. Both good options. In terms of pace, would Eoin Downey have a bit more than his brother, although still not a strong point?

Clare are a better team than people here think also. They were missing TK and Ryan Taylor when they beat cork and won well in the end. I think they will be serious challengers in the AI series. Limerick will have Darragh O Donovan and Sean Finn back for AI series also.

That's quite funny considering anyone reading your posts would think Joyce walks on water.
The simple fact is we have had 4 games, Joyce was CB for 2, RD was CB for 2, who played better? Tbh there is only one answer so RD stays at 6. They player in form keeps the jersey, it's quite simple really.

He’s not Christ but he’s one of the best players on the panel and anyone who knows the game knows that.

 

[TheOutdoorThreadmill]

He’s not Christ but he’s one of the best players on the panel and anyone who knows the game knows that.

Did I question his ability? RD has been a better CB this year so far, why would you take him out of there? It makes zero sense.

 

[Hurlywurly]

If Tipp pull off the shock of the year and beat Clare, we're through no matter what happens in the Limerick v Waterford game?
Hon Tipp

 

[Bronxrebel]

Did I question his ability? RD has been a better CB this year so far, why would you take him out of there? It makes zero sense.

Because he’s better.

 

[SoundMan]

My God the overreaction is breath taking. Now Downey had two stormers. He played well. Again it wasn’t some unbelievable Cork defensive performance against Limerick and Tipp is plain awful. He was asleep to start both games btw. You can argue he played a major role in Tipp even being close to Cork at half. How does that half look without the goal he played a major role allowing?

Is Joyce a superstar? Guess it depends on your criteria. There was absolutely no one on the planet rating Downey ahead of him a couple weeks ago. Two games later the guy cannot be moved from center back. This mentality is bizarre.

That's an interesting take for a guy who insists that Joyce, who didn't play in our only two victories, MUST be returned to number 6 and others be moved around to accommodate him.

I've nothing at all against Joyce, and I think he's one of the better players in the squad, but changing a winning team in order to accommodate him, and in your opinion that just HAS to be at 6 strikes me as tunnel-vision from you. Your one-eyedness in trying to claim Downey "played a major role" in allowing Tipp's goal, and ignored the fact he helped anchor our defence against the much vaunted Limerick and a Tipp side playing at home with their backs to the wall I think says much about your annoyance that Downey has done well in contributing to a line, and indeed overall defence, that had been in trouble when your hero Joyce played at 6

Personally I think Downey has shown himself part of our best HB combination when he was playing at 6 - I don't think he'd be anywhere near as effective at wingback. I also think it's great to have Joyce as an option to fill in a number of positions, including 6 if need be.

It's just that your insistence that Joyce MUST start at 6 is bizarre, and it looks like Cork management aren't as besotted with Joyce at 6 as you clearly are. BTW, Joyce is NOT a superstar. Yet!