Cork Hurlers - Part 2

[BBAWS.]

I've just about come down from the highs of Saturday evening now looking forward to the weekend against Tipp the standard has been set by this team and the question is can they back it up with another big performance.

I think they should start the same team again with maybe the exception of Joyce coming in if he is fit but with a hamstring injury maybe it's better to leave him on the bench and bring him on if needs be assuming he is ready.

Barrett has to be our center forward from now he was exceptional and will continue to improve, same goes for ET in midfield, ED at full back and Brian Hayes in the corner, these 4 lads in particular have proved what they can do and still have so much more to give and will keep improving the more competitive games they play.

I feel bad for Tommy O Connell as I also think he's shown plenty this year and will be waiting for his chance if someone else isn't performing.

Agreed. Having players in that position is what we actually need. That’s true strength is depth.

Can’t see Mellerick starting, but he’s invaluable as a utility defender and can replace anyone in back 6. Any defender with an early yellow card will most likely be hauled ashore. We’ve learned that the hard way!

I think management with be ruthless and drop Coleman. A message that we were great last week lads, but not perfect.

His attacking Sean Cavanagh for his opinions shows an intolerance which does not sit well. There is surely room for a nation-wide discussion about this. The GAA is not a dictatorship. Is it?

A discussion is 2 ways though. He was entitled to bite back at a stupid statement. In so far as he’s a man, you can forget about it.

 

[red&blue]

Need to find a role to get the best out of Coleman and I don’t think that’s in defence. Potentially midfield but I’m thinking he could do well at wing forward. He’s a bit of an enigma in that he’s too talented to leave out but has no set position.

He’s a bit small for the defence when a lot of teams have such strong wing forwards now and his defensive instincts are a bit limited.

Ah stop. Coleman needs to fight for his place like everyone else. He’s certainly not an automatic starter anymore which is a great sign of our development

 

[Corkfan82]

Need to find a role to get the best out of Coleman and I don’t think that’s in defence. Potentially midfield but I’m thinking he could do well at wing forward. He’s a bit of an enigma in that he’s too talented to leave out but has no set position.

He’s a bit small for the defence when a lot of teams have such strong wing forwards now and his defensive instincts are a bit limited.

Lets not go down the Coleman rabbit hole again. He is not "too talented" to leave out. Utter Nonsense.

Remember all the " top 10 hurlers in the country talk" on here previous. Again nonsense.

On currently form, he shouldnt start.

 

[Rebelsforsam1]

Lets not go down the Coleman rabbit hole again. He is not "too talented" to leave out. Utter Nonsense.

Remember all the " top 10 hurlers in the country talk" on here previous. Again nonsense.

On currently form, he shouldnt start.

Ryan has done a great job in identifying his best 15 and everyone being fit, team should be as follows…PC, NOL, ED, SOD, TOM, RD, CJ,ET, DF, DD, SB, SH, BH, AC, PH

 

[Crusty Ring]

The same fellas on here that are saying Coleman should be dropped are the ones a few weeks ago saying Harnedy & Hoggie are finished, how did that work out?

If Joyce is fit and starting it will be up to management to make a tactical call at wing back between TOM, MC and maybe GM as RD certainly won't be getting dropped.

Lets just trust management on this one based on what they see week in week out on the training field and how they want the team to play against Tipp, Every team in Munster asks different questions and its very much horses for courses in the bear of the Munster championship.

I've been critical of PR and his team for some decisions against Waterford and Clare but after Saturday my faith in this management is fully restored as they got all the calls right.

 

[Crankycorner]

The same fellas on here that are saying Coleman should be dropped are the ones a few weeks ago saying Harnedy & Hoggie are finished, how did that work out?

If Joyce is fit and starting it will be up to management to make a tactical call at wing back between TOM, MC and maybe GM as RD certainly won't be getting dropped.

Lets just trust management on this one based on what they see week in week out on the training field and how they want the team to play against Tipp, Every team in Munster asks different questions and its very much horses for courses in the bear of the Munster championship.

I've been critical of PR and his team for some decisions against Waterford and Clare but after Saturday my faith in this management is fully restored as they got all the calls right.

Well said.

 

[TexasRed]

I was just thinking that to myself, I'm used to Cork being berated on them and rightly so in alot of cases but I had a drive to Dublin this morning and listened to a few of them which was a nice change

Did the same thing, listening to Landers though is painful.

 

[Corkfan82]

The same fellas on here that are saying Coleman should be dropped are the ones a few weeks ago saying Harnedy & Hoggie are finished, how did that work out?

If Joyce is fit and starting it will be up to management to make a tactical call at wing back between TOM, MC and maybe GM as RD certainly won't be getting dropped.

Lets just trust management on this one based on what they see week in week out on the training field and how they want the team to play against Tipp, Every team in Munster asks different questions and its very much horses for courses in the bear of the Munster championship.

I've been critical of PR and his team for some decisions against Waterford and Clare but after Saturday my faith in this management is fully restored as they got all the calls right.

Hey Crusty, how is your faith is mgmt fully restored after getting it right last Sat but not right in the previous 2 games?

We could easily be out of the c'ship next week.

 

[ThatFella]

The same fellas on here that are saying Coleman should be dropped are the ones a few weeks ago saying Harnedy & Hoggie are finished, how did that work out?

If Joyce is fit and starting it will be up to management to make a tactical call at wing back between TOM, MC and maybe GM as RD certainly won't be getting dropped.

Lets just trust management on this one based on what they see week in week out on the training field and how they want the team to play against Tipp, Every team in Munster asks different questions and its very much horses for courses in the bear of the Munster championship.

I've been critical of PR and his team for some decisions against Waterford and Clare but after Saturday my faith in this management is fully restored as they got all the calls right.

I've been the same and I came on and said I will eat some of my words. As you said other fellas no where to be seen/heard since
Saw a different side of PR and his management team Saturday.
Pat bouncing Kinnerick, that's the Pat Ryan I want leading the team. Setting the tone on the line as well.
Was up and down line more and even out of the box.
He was much more animated but in a controlled way.

A small cute thing I noticed when Collins went down injured he told the physios to sit down and wait, kill more time.
Watching the game back Gillane did get a flick on his throat/jaw.
Limerick had done it several times to slow down momentum too. So why should we not do it when there is an actual incident.
Referees will start copping onto the fake ones as they too would watch back, just like the Hayes/Dalton one. Hayes would have been very quick to get up if ref said play on.

From what I saw with the Rob Downey/Tommy O Connell sub was that yes Tommy was warming up but they did try to keep Rob on but he was done to be fair could ask no more. Rob came over to the sideline as Tommy was nearby. It could have been done there and then.
Some fellas have different opinions but I was lower south near the bench so that was my observation.

 

[Hurlywurly]

Some people have been critical of the pitch invasion saying Cork have won nothing (correct) but what it has done is given the players and management a lift that we as the public and supporters are behind them every step of the way and have the faith.
Will we comment on team selection and tactics? Absolutely that goes with every sport.

Ahem! Some of us were fully behind them, had faith and supported them BEFORE the game v Limerick.
(and were pretty much berated for it).

It's great that you're back on board following the win, but the particular brand of criticism that you engaged in prior to the game was not cool.
Piggy backing on some Cork pundits who seemingly anticipated a certain loss and started trading in negative rumours and innuendo, genuinely awful.

As for people criticising the pitch invasion.
On emotional grounds it is above criticism- there was 2 years worth of RR frustration, disappointment and pain dispelled in those last four minutes.
The dread of another June without hurling....We thought we were out yet we survived in the most mental of circumstances in a stadium full of our own.
It was nothing but pure joy and disbelief at what we'd just seen, we all know it might mean eff all in the long run but in the moment and for now it was euphoric.
People pay good money chasing those kind of feelings, why not enjoy 'em when they come for the price of a ticket to PuC.