Cork Hurlers - Part 2

[TheOutdoorThreadmill]

Yes we needed to show the whures we can still hurl


I’m on a forum ( TFK)
And some of the Limerick bolloxes are still crawling about our all Ireland capitulation

Needless to say I ruffled a few of their feathers last evening
Gave the whures a few home truths

Is that fool Turenne still posting there?

 

[Evergreen]

Yeah sure let’s just pick the best hurlers, fuck knows how they are going to win the ball but sure let’s dance our way through their backline, again, cause it’s worked loads of time

You might find it a bizarre comment but come back in 24 hours time and see how bizarre it is. Keane will have enough on his plate winning his own battle, but he will be blamed for the systems failure in or foward line,

Agree on Connolly, fantastic news, and good to see Daire O Leary named in the subs

Very negative comments

 

[Corks finest]

Is that fool Turenne still posting there?

There’s a few I’d safely strangle
But for the most they’re great

 

[HondaGaels]

Watched the game back again today. Jesus Barrett and Lehane threw themselves in the way of every Limerick player. Need lads willing to sacrifice themselves for the team and then bring on the fresh legs. Keane only got the ball into hand twice in 40 minutes from what I seen second time around, one handpass to Hoggie early on and the cross field ball for the point. Need more from him, regardless of who the player is. Still need to be patient he won't be an all star over night. Would like to see Twomey and O'Brien get a chance to start each against Galway and Wexford. Think the 6 backs yesterday were as good as we'll get for championship. Need a big performance from Downey or Cahalane to even dream of shaking things up.
Wexford are flying too at the moment so that'll be a great game. I'm not the biggest fan of the short passing game but when we pull teams out of position and get runners off the shoulder we'll be hard to stop like we were yesterday

 

[Gilabbey_st]

I certainly missed it at the game and nine times out of ten that will be missed by a ref as well.

I would ash however what Niall O Leary thought he was doing in the first place ?
He turned a perfectly safe situation into a Limerick goal.

Because the game plan is to hand-pass to a runner but no one was showing and he allowed himself to be swallowed up. A shocking mistake at this level. For all the positives from yesterday for me the biggest disappointment is the playing style - it will not work in championship. Far too much hand-passing to fellas a few yards away and in many cases being marked. We create problems where there aren’t any. We should be at least going wide more often with the possession game. Limerick always position a man on the opposite side of the pitch from where a ruck/play is developing. Once ruck is won, pop pass and then 40 yard stick pass to man in space. Simple and very effective. We play a far too high risk possession game and not enough faster deliveries into space. We have lads in space, ball in hand who have time to deliver and yet they chose to pass to a guy 2 yards away….we will not win an AI trying to play football tactics.
There has to be more variation and angled deliveries. Also on too many occasions our carriers from the back are too slow.

 

[Hank Scorpio]

Watched the highlights again. Theres no way what Lynch did there was accidental.


He was beaten first by O'Leary then followed his run and swiped at him with his arm.

Catching O'Leary on the face guard

People can say O'Leary took too long on the sliotar but he beat his man fairly, Lynch took him out and the ref missed it.


I stand by my assessment at the time, should have been a free out and a red card for Lynch. Seriously dangerous play.

 

[Killyoursons]

Because the game plan is to hand-pass to a runner but no one was showing and he allowed himself to be swallowed up. A shocking mistake at this level. For all the positives from yesterday for me the biggest disappointment is the playing style - it will not work in championship. Far too much hand-passing to fellas a few yards away and in many cases being marked. We create problems where there aren’t any. We should be at least going wide more often with the possession game. Limerick always position a man on the opposite side of the pitch from where a ruck/play is developing. Once ruck is won, pop pass and then 40 yard stick pass to man in space. Simple and very effective. We play a far too high risk possession game and not enough faster deliveries into space. We have lads in space, ball in hand who have time to deliver and yet they chose to pass to a guy 2 yards away….we will not win an AI trying to play football tactics.
There has to be more variation and angled deliveries. Also on too many occasions our carriers from the back are too slow.

I'm not sure I'd put it quite as strongly as that, but you're right that the team do take too much out of the ball, especially around the half-back line. Great when it works, but too often the ball was going to a man already marked, or the man in possession tries to break one tackle too many. In the first twenty minutes or so Limerick seemed to be getting a lot of turnovers or at least slowing Cork down, only for some dreadful shooting they would probably have been level before Kingston's first goal.

That said, there were far more positives than negatives. The scoreline at ht flattered Cork, but their use of the ball in Limerick's half, the off-the-ball movement and the shooting were all excellent. Lehane and especially Barrett worked like dogs, the latter got on some amount of ball. Keane was very quiet, not much ball seemed to go his way but I would rather Twomey or O'Brien start next day out. There's a couple of positions to be nailed down in the forwards and I think they need to look at the other comparable options.

The midfield balance with Fitz and Joyce is v nice, Fitz bombing forward and Joyce sweeping back, together with Millerick he provided a lot of cover to Coleman. I still have my doubts about Coleman at 6 but if he is going to go there it is crucial that he gets that extra support. Daire O'Leary was solid, not exceptional but a reasonable debut.

On Limerick, I very much doubt they were taking it easy. I imagine what's worrying Kiely is the failure of newer players to step forward to claim a spot or even put pressure on the starting XV. I wouldn't be writing off the likes of O'Neill just yet, but apart from his goal yesterday he didn't look up to speed.

 

[TheOutdoorThreadmill]

There’s a few I’d safely strangle
But for the most they’re great

It's a while since I had a look in but there was another idiot called Caoimhin (?) who thought he was S&C/IC player fitness genius, a pure bluffer

 

[BossHogg]

Watched the highlights again. Theres no way what Lynch did there was accidental.


He was beaten first by O'Leary then followed his run and swiped at him with his arm.

Catching O'Leary on the face guard

People can say O'Leary took too long on the sliotar but he beat his man fairly, Lynch took him out and the ref missed it.


I stand by my assessment at the time, should have been a free out and a red card for Lynch. Seriously dangerous play.

So what you have here is what I said earlier about him trying to stop his momentum and you have Lynch also trying to grab the ball that OLeary is bouncing on his Hurley (knowing he couldn't catch it again). Nothing more, nothing less. Pure accident.

 

[Hank Scorpio]

Good man Bosshogg.

Tell us some more about your reading on what Lynch intended to do and the 'mechanics of running'




O'Leary turns him inside out , Lynch runs after him and knowing he is turned again , swipes at his face with the free arm.

'Accidental' my arse.