Cork Docklands Development

[jojo1804]

Kerry?

ahyesss...

 

[yera yeah boy]

Laughhh!!!!!!!!!

 

[dreamweaver]

Enough to sanction the upgrading of the N28 to accomodate it.

The N28 links Ringaskiddy to the ring road. There's no manufacturing in the city centre and no retail distribution. Whether the port is in Ringaskiddy or the city centre, the trucks will make similar trips. High density urban living will be far more useful during peak oil than the preservation of some rural idyll for rich commuters.

 

[jojo1804]

Laughhh!!!!!!!!!

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Oh you are such a funny lad

 

[jojo1804]

The N28 links Ringaskiddy to the ring road. There's no manufacturing in the city centre and no retail distribution. Whether the port is in Ringaskiddy or the city centre, the trucks will make similar trips. High density urban living will be far more useful during peak oil than the preservation of some rural idyll for rich commuters.

Depends how you define retail distribution and to what scale you're talking of, besides, when peak oil comes there won't be a need for large scale manufacturing or distribution, hence the need to concentrate upon local distribution of imported goods....and as for your image of the lower harbour, if you believe the wish to live in a place which doesn't have 24 hr noise, light and other pollution going on around you is a 'rural idyll', then live in an industrial wasteland, fine, but don't expect the rest of us to.

 

[jd26]

I think there's a lot of confusion about the reason for the Oyster Bank project in here. Oyster Bank will replace the container terminal at Tivoli, which has run out of capacity and which is too far upstream to handle the largest container ships.

It is not to handle the types of loose cargo handled at the South Jetties.

 

[Mossybanks]

Depends how you define retail distribution and to what scale you're talking of, besides, when peak oil comes there won't be a need for large scale manufacturing or distribution, hence the need to concentrate upon local distribution of imported goods....and as for your image of the lower harbour, if you believe the wish to live in a place which doesn't have 24 hr noise, light and other pollution going on around you is a 'rural idyll', then live in an industrial wasteland, fine, but don't expect the rest of us to.

"Peak Oil" as you describe it will have minimal impact.

The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stone, and the oil age won't end because we run out of oil.

In both cases new technologies came along and made existing ones obsolete.

New technologies are becoming more and more viable with the escalating cost of fossil fuels. Once fossil fuels become as expensive in the US and China as they are in Europe, expect large scale production of next generation transportation technologies including fuel cell, and hydrogen powered vehicles.

 

[yera yeah boy]

Looks like developers are about to start motoring on this according to the front of today's Echo

http://www.eveningecho.ie/

Cant find this article monty, is there a more specific link?

 

[yera yeah boy]

Ooops found it. What a dope.

 

[BarneyMagee]

How much freight that goes through Cork is coming from or going to the city centre?

The Port of Cork said recently that about 40% of its business comes from the City Centre quays.

But a lot of the Port's City Centre customers such as R&H are making planning applications to demolish their premises and build commercial and residential units.
They realise they can easily find new grain and fertilizer silos down by Ringaskiddy and then make a killing on their city centre lands (provided there is an upturn).

This could all be moot. Cork is still waiting on planning permission for the two bridges. If that's turned down it will set the whole project back a couple of years.

The way I see it going is hopefully Howard Holdings and the Council will build the arena. Then the GAA redeveloping Pairc Ui Chaoimh giving that end of the docklands a bit of a buzz. Then R&H demolish the silos and build their projects followed by the development of the rest of Howard Holdings, the Marina commercial Park and Topaz' oil depot.